Hi everyone it is 4 o'clock in New York I'm Alicia Menendez in for

Nicole Wallace a startling admission by the ex-president that could very well

end up being a critical piece of evidence in the cases against him. We're talking

about newly released audio of an interview with Donald Trump by ABC News's John Carl.

It took place a little more than two months after the January 6th insurrection.

It shows the ex-president knew full well the power he had over the mob that stormed the capital.

Just take a listen.

But if you look at the real size of that crowd it was never reported correctly.

There were.

It's the biggest crowd I've ever spoken in front of by far.

Really?

By far.

That went down to the Washington, that went back to the Washington Monument.

You told them you were going to go up to the Capitol, where you just...

I was going to, and the Secret Service said, you can't, and then by the time I would have, and then when I get back, I saw...

I wanted to go back, I was thinking about going back during the problem to stop the problem, doing it myself.

Secret Service didn't like that idea too much.

So what's so...

And you know what, I would have been very well received.

Don't forget the people that went to Washington that day

in my opinion they went because they thought the election was rigged that's why they went

Trump's desire to go to the Capitol was fleshed out in incredible detail by the January 6th

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