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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

The biggest climate case that ever was

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.8162 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

We are re-airing one of our all time favourite episodes following this week's landmark verdict on the biggest climate case that ever was: KlimaSeniorinnen vs. Switzerland. We reported on the case in depth last year, shortly after the hearing. And now, the court rules: KlimaSeniorinnen win! We usually see young people as the face of climate activism. In this episode, we find out how 2,000 Swiss women, all over the age of 65, took their government to court in a case that could change climate laws across Europe. And along the way, we figure out once and for all how the European Court of Human Rights actually works. This is a special episode made in cooperation with the⁠ Allianz Foundation⁠, one of several podcasts we're making about sustainability with their support. Stay tuned to hear more. You can find out more about the KlimaSeniorinnen ⁠here⁠.  Thanks for listening! If you enjoy our podcast and would like to help us keep making it, we'd love it if you'd consider chipping in a few bucks a month at ⁠⁠patreon.com/europeanspodcast⁠⁠ (many currencies are available). You can also help new listeners find the show by ⁠⁠leaving us a review⁠⁠ or giving us five stars on Spotify.  FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT HERE: ⁠https://europeanspodcast.com/episodes/the-biggest-climate-case-that-ever-was⁠ Reporter and producer: Katz Laszlo Editor: Katy Lee Editorial support: Dominic Kraemer and Wojciech Oleksiak Sound design, mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music by Jim Barne, Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions ⁠Twitter⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | hello@europeanspodcast.com

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, it's Dominic here. We're landing in your feeds today with a bonus episode

0:05.6

because of some very big news that broke in Europe this week. You may have heard about it.

0:12.4

A group of older Swiss women won a landmark case at the European Court of Human Rights,

0:18.6

a case against their own government, who they claimed,

0:22.5

and the court agreed, were not doing enough to limit climate change.

0:28.2

Just under a year ago, you may remember we released an episode about exactly this case.

0:34.0

It was soon after the hearing had occurred, and we thought it would be good to re-release that episode

0:39.4

in light of this amazing, incredible win for these Swiss women. I was really moved when I heard

0:47.1

the news about their win. And I think I was moved because of everything I had learned from this

0:53.1

episode. So I really hope you enjoy listening

0:55.9

or re-listening to it. We're going to be calling up one of the journalists who has been following

1:00.5

the case most closely on this week's normal episode out on Thursday, but for now I hope you

1:06.2

enjoy this episode, the biggest climate case that ever was produced and reported by Katzlaslo. Hi, Dominic.

1:37.0

Hi, Katie.

1:38.3

I saw that our producer Katz Laslo was visiting you in Paris.

1:43.3

I saw that you were kind of hanging out with a bunch

1:45.4

of toy owls on Instagram. We were, yes. What was going on there? Why wasn't I invited?

1:52.2

Why weren't you invited? Well, it was a very impromptu visit. It's thanks to Deutsche Barn,

1:56.3

Germany's illustrious rail company going on strike. Katz was actually supposed to be on her way somewhere else, but she rang me up that morning asking if she could crash at my place, and I said yes. That's kind of you. But yeah, the reason Katz was travelling in the first place was for this special episode that we've got lined up for you today. Aha, it's all coming together. Yeah, so all of us read about this case. There's this group called

2:19.2

the Klima signorinen who were taking the Swiss government to court for not doing enough

2:24.5

about climate change. And the first thing that intrigued us about this legal case was it was a group

2:30.0

of older women doing it. We usually hear stories of young people who are really concerned about

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