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Welcome to today's podcast, sponsored by Hillsdale College, all things Hillsdale at Hillsdale.

I encourage you to take advantage of the many free online

courses there. And of course, I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of them at Q for

Hillsdale.com or just Google Apple, iTunes, and Hillsdale. Good Friday to you, big weekend show coming up.

And I'm pleased and honored to begin with Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergam.

Secretary Bergam, happy New Year to you in advance.

I'm so glad you could join us.

I've been talking to various people, Senator Thune, Chris Wright, others about the year in review.

You've got one of the biggest agencies, and you've had a year now.

What do you count as the accomplishments at Interior in 2025?

Well, Hugh, great to be with you, but accomplishments for 2025,

is really implementing President Trump's common sense agenda about unleashing American energy.

And that, broadly speaking, I mean, we're talking about oil and gas. A year ago,

U.S. had LNG export restrictions on under the Biden administrations. Now, world's largest

exporter of LNG, bigger than number two and number three in the world. And of course,

when we're exporting LNG, that's good for Americans here because when we've got foreign purchases or when our allies are buying from us versus our enemies, we're stopping funding wars abroad.

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