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So grab some coffee or sweet tea and join Lisa Harper on Bat Forch Theology. Subscribe now wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to today's podcast, sponsored by Hillsdale College. All things Hillsdale at Hillsdale.edu. I encourage you to take advantage of the many free online courses there. And, of course, I'll listen to the Hillsdale Dialogues, all of them at Hugh for Hillsdale.com, or just Google, Apple, iTunes, and Hillsdale. Morning and glory and evening, Grace, America. The first week of the war is in the books, and the big weekend pod is all about that. John Ellis, of course, with news

maybe not related to the war. There's other news out there, including very bad job numbers today

in a very weak market that's worried about the price of oil, a little bit of pants wetting

going on around the world because this war is not going to last more than two months.

Then we're going to talk about the war with Matt Continetti, with Ben Dominic, with Eli Lake,

and then, of course, the Hillsdale Dialogue coming up.

But here on the Big Weekend Pod, I don't do the Hillsdale Dialogue, you can find that

at Hugh for Hillsdale.com.

We're focused on the news and just the news on the big

weekend pod. So stay tuned and don't go anywhere.

Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Matt Contonetti is, of course, senior fellow

in domestic studies at the American Enterprise Institute. He's also the Free Expressions columnist at the Wall Street Journal in today's column.

He writes at the through line of Donald Trump's foreign policy for 40 years has been Iran.

Matt, it got a new iteration day to unconditional surrender.

Dwayne did this picture for me because I can't work chat CTP on the images. But the original unconditional surrender man was Grant and he

said it to Ford Donaldson and he just meant walk out and lay everything down. What do you

think Trump means by unconditional surrender? Well, Hugh, I think he can mean a few things.

The first is that he's going to eliminate Iran's capacity to sow mayhem around the region.

So decimate the Iranian war machine.

They're also going after Iran's apparatus of repression, the institutions like the IRGC and the Basij militia that

slaughtered the 30,000 Iranians during the recent protests. So unconditional surrender would mean

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