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Ear Hustle

Ear Hustle & Radiotopia

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.9 • 21.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2018

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

When you’re incarcerated, falling in love with prison staff or volunteers is prohibited. But… it happens. And it happened to Erin and Lisa, who then had to negotiate the joys and pitfalls of romance inside San Quentin.

A heads-up: this episode contains discussion of domestic violence — listener discretion is advised.

Thanks to Allyson West for talking with us, and to Erin for talking twice.

Ear Hustle is produced by Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods with help from outside producer Pat Mesiti-Miller, who also comes in to lead the sound design team. This episode was scored with music by David Jassy, Antwan Williams, Lee Jaspar (aka Matthew Lee Jasper), E. Phil Phillips, Dwight Krizman and Gregg Sayers. Eternal thanks to Lt. Sam Robinson and Warden Ron Davis for their support of the show.

You can reach the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE.

Thanks to Nectar and Bombas for supporting this episode. Find out more about the show at earhustlesq.com, where you can also buy an Ear Hustle mug to go with your T-shirt! Ear Hustle is a proud member of Radiotopia, from PRX.

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0:00.0	What's going on, y'all? This is Lucrette, and right now you are listening to AirHustle,
0:04.6	one of my favorite podcasts in the world. In this episode of AirHustle contains language
0:09.3	that may not be appropriate for all listeners. Discretion is advised.
0:20.4	If you fall down and get hurt in the prison, it's not going to be good because then the
0:25.2	staff has to do with a call-a-package, which means some paperwork. We'd have to stay late.
0:29.6	I might go to the hospital, you know, it's a lot of paperwork, and they don't like doing packages.
0:35.6	If you fall down and you die, that's kind of worse because that's a bigger package,
0:41.4	but then again you're not going to be any more trouble to them after that, right?
0:45.1	But the worst thing you can possibly do in prison is fall in love with a prisoner.
0:51.5	You're now tuned in to San Quentin's AirHustle from PRX's Radio Topia. I'm Irlein Woods.
1:00.8	I've been incarcerated for 21 years and I'm currently housed here at San Quentin State Prison
1:05.7	in California. I'm Nigel Poor, a visual artist, now-podcaster. I've been working with the guys
1:11.3	here at San Quentin for about seven years. And together we're going to take you inside.
1:22.0	On this episode, I love story.
1:34.8	We say this a lot, but one of the things that makes San Quentin unusual,
1:39.0	not just in California, but throughout the country, is that there's a lot of people coming in and
1:43.5	out of the prison every day. Visitors on tours. We get a lot of them. We even get sports teams passing
1:50.2	through like the Golden State Warriors. What about those twin tennis players? Yeah, the
1:55.1	something brothers. The something brothers came in exactly. And there's also the entertainers like
2:00.8	LeCray, J. Cole, Common. It's also three thousand volunteers that come inside this prison on a regular
2:08.2	basis. It's amazing. I've heard that number many times. And you know, I've noticed that a vast
2:14.4	majority of those volunteers are women. I've noticed that too. Really? That's clear. That's
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