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Well, hello listeners, welcome back.

My name is Stephanie Safarian and you're listening to episode 330 of sustainable

minimalists, a Twas Weekly show about intentional and eco-minimalist living.

If you've been listening to the show for a while,

you've likely noticed that when it comes to discussing eco-friendly behaviors,

we often on this show center our activities, center the

ideas around what we can do within our own homes, what we have control over within our own respective spheres.

And on today's show, I am super excited to bring on two guests who are going to help us take our efforts that we have been

solidifying in our own homes and take our efforts outside of the home. What can we do within our own communities that are going to make a

significant impact? What, in their words, will have some zeros behind the impact that's what we're discussing

today today I am speaking with Hal Harvey and Justin Gillis Hal is an energy

policy advisor and Justin is an award-winning New York Times reporter.

They together co-authored the new book The Big Fix,

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