Hello everybody. Welcome to a very special blood-red podcast from the Echo this week.

I'm Andy Kelly and yesterday you'll have seen the Echo and other media report on a significant vote from Liverpool fans about real seating.

It was a vote conducted by the Spirit of Shankly Supporters Union.

And today I'm joined by Jay McKenna Spooksman for Spirit Shankly, okay Jay.

Yeah, good.

Also joined in the room by Damien Kavana,

Damien's survivor of Hillsborough,

and joined by Steve Kelly,

who echo readers will know well from lots of pieces as a Hillsborough campaigner over the years and

Steve lost his brother Michael at Hillsborough and has been a strong campaigner ever since.

And I'm also joined in the room by Dan Kay, one of the Echo staff here.

Dan's an Anfield season ticket holder and has followed the campaign and the fight for

Justice at Hillsborough very closely indeed.

Thank you very much for coming in giving us your time everybody.

JF I can start with you.

The vote this week taken by Spirit Shankly.

Just recount if you can for us the facts that were brought out by that and what was the question asked of

Liverpool supporters in that vote.

Okay. The series of questions in the online vote. There were sort of two votes so to speak.

We had the vote amongst our members, paid up members to set a union position, but as I've just been

talked to Damian before we started recording this,

we wanted to make sure there's many supporters got to have a say as well, and also to make sure that

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