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Patrick Boyle On Finance

The Big Bond Selloff!

Patrick Boyle On Finance

Patrick Boyle

Investing, Business

4.9320 Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Send us a textThe 10-year U.S. Treasury yield closed above 4.9% yesterday, its highest level since July 2007. The bond-market sell-off that's pushing yields higher is starting to eclipse some of the most extreme market meltdowns of past eras.Losses on Ten Year Treasury Bonds are close to 50% since March 2020, while the 30-year bond had plunged even more.Those losses are nearly in line with stock-market losses seen during the worst crashes of recent stock market history — when equities slumped...

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome. You are listening to Patrick Boyle on Finance, a podcast exploring ideas from quantitative finance, examining events occurring in markets right now and financial history to see what lessons can be taken away, including interviews with some of the most interesting people in the world of finance. To learn more about the podcast, visit onfinance.org.

0:27.6

The 10-year U.S. Treasury yield closed above 4.9% yesterday, its highest level since July 2007.

0:37.1

While that might not seem like a big deal to most

0:40.3

investors, 4.9% is not really a surprisingly high interest rate in the greater scheme of things.

0:47.1

What it means is that bond investors in longer dated treasuries have lost around half of their

0:53.0

money since early 2020.

0:55.0

A team of analysts at Bank of America are calling this the greatest bond bear market of all time.

1:02.0

The long-term Treasury ETF, which invests in US government debt maturing in at least 10 years,

1:09.0

is down 8.5% over the last month and is half

1:13.6

since its high in March 2020. That would be considered a terrible loss in the stock market,

1:20.6

which is at least expected to be volatile. It's a devastating loss for bond investors

1:26.6

who are typically seen as being risk-averse

1:29.0

investors seeking stable returns and income.

1:33.1

The current losses in long maturity debt more than double the losses that occurred in

1:38.0

1981 when Paul Volcker's campaign to end persistent inflation drove 10-year treasury yields to almost 16%.

1:48.0

Since 1945, there have only been three stock market drawdowns of 40% or more, the most recent

1:57.0

two being the bursting of the dot-com bubble and the financial crisis of 2007-2008.

2:03.6

So what's happened in the bond market is one of the ugliest losses in modern financial

2:09.4

history.

2:10.7

The financial press is describing these as paper losses, as if you hold on to the bonds

2:16.7

you bought at near zero interest rates,

2:19.1

you do eventually get the money that you put in back when the bonds mature.

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