That's the hot new thing right now is to be a Christian nationalist.

And I think a lot of people are jumping at the opportunity to get on board this attempt

to take over the government on the part of Christians.

And unfortunately, it means hurting an awful lot of people along the way.

On this week's more to the story, I sit down with religious scholar Dan McClellan

to talk about what people get wrong about the Bible and how its teachings are often

used and abused by people in power.

Stay with us.

Music This is more to the story. I'm out Letson.

So the Bible is without question, the most influential book in history and bestselling. An estimated

five billion copies have sold throughout the world. So many people quote it, reference it, live by it,

and a lot of them misinterpreted. Just ask Dan McClellan, author of the book The Bible says so.

What we get right and wrong about scripture's most

controversial issues. He spent his life learning and relearning what the Bible and its authors were

trying to tell us. After years of studying religion at universities like BYU and Oxford, he found his

calling on TikTok, where he regularly debunks what he sees as misguided

interpretations of the world's most argued overbook. Dan, how are you? I'm doing well. Things are

busy these days, but I'm always happy to sit down and talk rather than write emails. Yeah, so you got a new book out.

But wait, before we get to that, before we get to that, I should tell my listeners that I am such a huge fan of your work.

I've been following you for a while.

And I think I came across your work because I am the son of a preacher man, grew up in the church, and definitely have my

own religious beliefs. But what I love about the work that you do is you are just kind of

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