I'm Aisha Roscoe, and this is the Sunday story from Up First.

I often think about my faith and how it affects the way I carry myself as a journalist.

And as a journalist who is a Christian, I have obviously been noticing the Trump administration use biblical language and

imagery online on social media to justify foreign and domestic policy decisions.

And I'm always curious and interested to hear from people who have studied the Bible

and studied Christianity and religion who can talk about the biblical context that these

ideas are being pulled from and what that says about the faith that this

administration is portraying.

I guess that's why I was really, really interested when I heard a recent interview by Brittany Luce, who host NPR's

It's Been a Minute podcast. She sat down with two people who think a lot about the separation

of church and state and also about what happens when religion is mixed with policy in America.

Jason DeRose is NPR's religion correspondent.

Part of the rhetoric of conservative white evangelicals is that they are the oppressed minority in the United States.

Reverend Dr. Gabriel Saul Gero is the president and founder of the

National Latino Evangelical Coalition. He's also the pastor of the gathering place and assemblies of

God congregation in Orlando, Florida. Look, I think like in any community, evangelicals are not a monolith.

And oftentimes when headlines say evangelicals say, they mostly mean white evangelicals.

What I think makes this conversation special is how both guests engage with the idea of welcoming the stranger in Christian thought

and how those values come to bear on current debates in the U.S. about immigration and war.

Brittany's insightful conversation with Jason DeRose and Reverend Dr. Gabriel Saul Gero

after the break.

We're back with the Sunday story.

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