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Welcome to The Verge Cast, the flagship podcast of interoperable messaging protocols.

I'm your friend David Pierce, and this is the second episode in our miniseries all about connectivity.

Last week we talked to Telly CEO Ilya Posin about how we interact with our TVs,

the biggest screens in our house, and how we connect to the content that we care about.

This week we're going to talk about people.

I think the best way I can explain the conversation we're about to have is to tell you a story about my wife.

This happened just the other day. I swear this is true.

It was the most perfect timing.

So I'm in the living room sitting on the couch watching TV, and my wife Anna comes in,

and is like, I hate so much when somebody makes you download a whole new app just to group chat.

Turns out, she joined this mom's group, and the person organizing everything made her download group me,

which you might remember as the messaging app Microsoft bought a bunch of years ago,

and then like forgot about.

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