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Hello. Hello and welcome to the West Coast edition of South Beach Sessions.

John Lovett is a media mogul. I can call you that. Yes.

Uncomfortably, he doesn't want that. Crooked media, Pod Save America, love it or leave it. How did we get here?

And I don't mean, I mean all of it. I don't mean not just conversational. I mean, you went from math,

you stand up comedy to something that isn't those things. So I, when I graduated from college,

I moved to New York.

I was a temp paralegal working for those asbestos law firms that you see advertised in the

subway.

And then at night, I was either doing my law school applications or I was going to open

mics.

I also was interested in politics.

I volunteered for the Kerry campaign in 2004.

I really liked that. I volunteered for the Kerry campaign in 2004. I really like that.

I was actually enrolled in law school. I was doing the open mics. I was working in politics.

And it was basically luck that a job turned up in politics. And I took that job in politics

and ended up deciding not to go to law school. The dreaming of being what, though, at that point, are still searching, dabbling in several

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