The Best of Enemies: Thatcher & Major
Politics Unpacked
Anna Covell
4.1 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 17 November 2023
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
As a cabinet minister under both Maragret Thatcher and John Major, Norman Fowler is perfectly placed to chronicle the rise and fall of the two prime ministers. He tells Matt about his shock at being promoted by Thatcher, his battle to draw public attention to the dangers of Aids, and why he never forgave her for talking down 'Majorism'.
Plus: Columnists James Marriott and Helen Lewis discuss whether the Tories have lost their heads over Rwanda, whether Labour has a woman problem and whether £20 is too much to pay for biscuits
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| 1:24.5 | In Margaret Thatcher's cabinet, he was the health secretary who oversaw the AIDS crisis. |
| 1:29.9 | Then he worked for John Major and then he saw what happens when the Tory party falls out. |
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