Okay, so we get a ton of questions from listeners and readers and everyone like that and one of the themes that I see arising is this idea of spiritual

intimacy. Do you even know what that what does that even mean? What does that even mean? I think so and that those are my words people don't ask in those in those terms so spiritual intimacy are

and our view is this idea of having unity around your passion and

fervor and pursuing the things of God and following him wholeheartedly and wholeheartedly. Yes, so how do you get there if you're not there a lot of spouses are wondering how do they get a unwilling spouse to at least open up to these conversations and

it's of course a very complex topic. We're going to explore that today.

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You're just jumping right into business. I always am. I'm always a business oriented. Sometimes I am.

So little insight for you listeners. Every time we record this. Every time we record our podcast, we're always running late

because we always end up like talking more than we should or like taking a longer break or just slow and preparing the show notes,

the run sheet, the run down, the run down with Charles Minor up in the. So by the time we get to record in.

We are running out of time and Selena is always hungry. I'm not hungry though. I'm not hungry this time. My stomach is not ground.

We had a nice protein shake. I had mixed coffee with mine today. I had a leftover coffee in there. Anyways. It's like a frangione. No, I'm really, I think both of us are really excited to talk about

what spiritual intimacy is and how to begin developing it in your marriage. I don't think it's a point of arrival. You don't actually like come to this epiphany.

No. I am now spiritually disciplined. I'm spiritually intimate with you. You just can't, yeah, you can't do that this side of heaven, right? We're broken sinners.

Yeah, but we live in also in a culture where the weird don't worry. Sorry. We forgive me.

We live in a culture you're so sassy. We live in a culture where spirituality is almost it's distorted in some ways. And that when you don't use that word spiritual intimacy,

it kind of conjures these ideas. Conjuries and other is another like weird word. Conjures this imagery of new age sort of crystals.

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