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Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

The Best Guest I Never Had: An Elegy for Steven Weinberg ​(#203)

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Brian Keating

Science, Physics, Natural Sciences

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2021

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

This episode is sort of "fan fiction" conversation with a dead man who will cast a shadow over physics, philosophy, and theology for decades to come: Steven Weinberg, co-recipient of the 1979 Nobel Prize. Long before audiobooks and podcasts were a thing, in 1992 I took a night train from Cleveland to Buffalo to Binghamton to meet my girlfriend. To while away the hours, I brought with me Weingberg's epochal popular science book, "The First Three Minutes". A few months later, as a graduation present, I received from Lawrence Krauss, CWRU's incoming physics department chairman, "Dreams of a Final Theory". “Weinberg” is the most mentioned name in my The INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE Podcast notebook where I keep thoughts on possible/upcoming guests. I never got to host him on my show. I did try, most recently in February 2021. For a long time, I held off, insecure in my ability to bring anything new to the table. Weinberg was a brilliant scientist but as I show, had overly simplistic thoughts on religion and practitioners. Often he claimed science, at its best, SHOULD make religion less plausible. Using quotes drawn from his many interviews and lectures, including one in his own voice, I bring you this slightly combative interview with a very complex individual. For the record, Stephen Weinberg, Sheldon Glashow, and Abdus Salam shared the 1979 Nobel Prize for his work on Electroweak Symmetry Breaking or the, so-called, ‘Standard Model for particle physics’. He also made many contributions to both particle physics and cosmology. With respect to the latter, the question addressed is whether or why our universe is fine-tuned for our existence. Past guest, Lenny Susskind explained that Weinberg calculated that if the cosmological constant was just a little different, our universe would cease to exist. This paper is behind a paywall, but see a public lecture (with advanced math): https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Weinberg/Weinberg3.html. Weinberg believed the Anthropic Principle may be appropriated by cosmologists committed to nontheism, and refers to that Principle as a "turning point" in modern science because applying it to the string landscape "may explain how the constants of nature that we observe can take values suitable for life without being fine-tuned by a benevolent creator". I cover some of Steven’s ‘greatest hits’ including: "I can hope that this long sad story, this progression of priests and ministers and rabbis and ulamas and imams and bonzes and bodhisattvas, will come to an end. I hope this is something to which science can contribute … it may be the most important contribution that we can make." "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." "In our universe we are tuned into the frequency that corresponds to physical reality. But there are an infinite number of parallel realities coexisting with us in the same room, although we cannot tune into them." And my personal ‘favorite’:"It seems a bit unfair to my relatives to be murdered in order to provide an opportunity for free will for Germans, but even putting that aside, how does free will account for cancer? Is it an opportunity of free will for tumors?" So, let me know what you think of this episode. Should I do more solo episodes like this, or make this my one and only 😀? Resources: Stephen C. Meyer “Weinberg and the Twilight of the Godless Universe” Dan Falk: “Learning to Live in Weinberg’s ‘Pointless Universe’ “ Find more quotes from Weinberg here: Please leave a rating and review of The INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE Podcast: Simply click here, scroll down to the ratings and leave a rating and review: 👉 Please subscribe to my YouTube Channel, just click here 👉 Please join my mailing list; just click here http://briankeating.com/mailing_list.php Please contact [email protected] to learn more about sponsoring Into the Impossible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

0:11.6

Open the pod bay doors now.

0:15.0

Hey friends, this is a first in the Into the Impossible Podcast History,

0:21.0

a solo episode with yours truly opining on something important to me, which is the passing of perhaps the one guest that I most wish that I had had on the podcast in years and now sadly I'll never get him on the

0:37.4

podcast because Stephen Weinberg passed away at age 88 this past summer in July. And although he did overlap with past guest Shelley

0:47.0

Glashow in a wonderful, quite delightful series of interactions ranging from their growing up together as kids in Bronx Science High School, the famed Bronx Science High School, where so many Nobel laureates came from, I think it's second only to a few different countries

1:06.5

in Europe as to Nobel laureates that came out of that wonderful school.

1:12.0

And Stephen's passing closes the door forever in a way that affected me such that I really had some regrets about how I take the direction of the

1:23.4

podcast and the people I'm choosing to interview.

1:26.6

You know that I have prioritized laureates,

1:29.9

have won Nobel Prizes, not just because they have won these prizes, but because of the human beings that they are

1:36.0

and what they mean to society what they represent not the least of which is

1:41.6

because many of them are getting old and if you have read

1:44.5

my latest book into the impossible you will know that the impetus behind

1:50.4

recording these interviews really stem from the passing of snubbed

1:56.2

Laureate, as a man who really truly did lose the Nobel Prize and that was of

2:00.8

course Freeman Dyson my first guest on the into the impossible

2:03.5

podcast and his death led an urgent sense to the podcast production and to actually

2:09.3

turn the interviews with these laureates into a book, which I am happy to say I did do this past year.

2:16.0

But still, time waits for no man or woman at Tempest Puget.

2:22.0

We must seize the day and all sorts of other platitudes, but

2:24.8

their platitudes for a reason. And then at the end of the year, December, it's natural to think

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