The Berkeley Socialist Behind Mass Incarceration (with Heather Ann Thompson)
Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle
Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 5 February 2021
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox. This is with friends like these. For a few months now, we've been |
| 0:10.1 | looking at good intentions. Why people have them? What happens to them? Where they lead? |
| 0:16.0 | One of the stories I've been most excited to tell is this week's, which I found literally |
| 0:20.9 | in a footnote, in a book about mass incarceration. It's a story of good intentions, and pride, and |
| 0:28.3 | politics. And I'll warn you now, it has a not great ending, also a suicide is involved. So |
| 0:38.0 | keep that in mind when you decide whether to listen through right now or save it for later. |
| 0:43.1 | But I hope you listen now. In observance of Black History Month, we're going to start a segment |
| 0:51.4 | highlighting organizations that are Black-led or primarily concerned with issues directly affecting |
| 0:56.8 | Black people. This week's organization was suggested by our guest, Heather Ann Thompson. Just |
| 1:02.6 | leadership USA stands out because it's not just advocating for incarceration, but it was founded |
| 1:09.2 | by a formerly incarcerated person, continues to bring formerly incarcerated people into the organization, |
| 1:15.0 | and works directly with those who are incarcerated or have been impacted by incarceration. Your |
| 1:21.1 | money will be an investment in the leadership of the organization as well as the cause itself. And |
| 1:27.0 | you can donate at their website, www.jlusa.com slash donate, that's www.jlusa.com slash donate. And if |
| 1:39.6 | you can't donate right now, you can amplify them on Twitter by following and retweeting at just |
| 1:46.0 | leaders USA, that's not leadership, but just leaders USA. And maybe other people you know have money. |
| 1:54.0 | You can ask just leadership USA for help planning a fundraiser large or small, and they also do |
| 2:00.2 | calls for volunteers via Twitter. So keep your eyes open for that. That's www.jlusa.com slash donate. |
| 2:10.4 | In the summer of 1979, a man named Robert Martinson committed suicide by jumping out the window |
| 2:19.2 | of his 15th floor New York apartment. 20 years before he'd been a civil rights activist, you could |
| 2:26.3 | call him a radical. He ran for the mayor of Berkeley as a socialist when it was even more |
| 2:31.2 | unpopular than it is today. And in 1961, he joined the Freedom Writers in Mississippi and was arrested |
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