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The BBC's Sarah Smith talks to President Trump

Newshour

BBC

News, Daily News

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

President Trump gives an interview to the BBC's North America correspondent, Sarah Smith, on a range of issues including NATO, the Royal visit to the US and relations with the UK. Speaking earlier, he also issued a 'shoot to kill' to any boat laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz. We examine how much mine sweeping is happening in the shipping channel.

Also in the programme: Britain strikes a new deal with France to stop illegal migrants from crossing the English Channel; and we find out about the lipstick effect during tough financial times.

(Photo: US President Trump speaks to reporters ahead Davos, Washington, USA - 20 Jan 2026: Credit EPA/Shutterstock )

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.5

Hello, welcome to the programme. This is News Hour from the BBC World Service coming live from London. My name's Paul Henley.

0:17.6

With uncertainty continuing to surround the status of the war in the Middle East,

0:22.2

and there'll be more on that very soon, the BBC's North America editor Sarah Smith

0:26.7

has been speaking to President Donald Trump in a short phone call today.

0:31.4

Their conversations spanned Iran, the British King's visit to the US,

0:35.8

and the UK Prime Minister Kirstama.

0:38.1

I asked Sarah what had been said.

0:40.9

He was making a rather optimistic case for how the war on Iran is going.

0:44.6

He said to me that the other side, meaning Iran, is dying to do a deal.

0:48.4

So whatever I'm saying, whatever I'm doing, it seems to be working very well.

0:52.7

Now, there's actually not much evidence that Iran is

0:56.0

ready to try and do a deal, but it's not unusual for Donald Trump to be quite bombastic in the

1:01.8

things he says about how the war is going with Iran. He frequently claims on social media that he's

1:05.7

already achieved a great victory over Iran, whereas, as we know, we're in fact in a period of an extended

1:11.3

ceasefire. But, yeah, he is clearly feeling good about how it's going when he says that

1:16.3

it seems to be working very well. The conversation turned to specifically British things,

1:21.3

for example. So I asked him about Sir Keustomer, whom he has been very, very critical of in recent weeks.

1:28.7

He says he feels very disappointed that the United Kingdom didn't offer more assistance with the war in Iran.

1:34.3

He's disappointed in all NATO allies, but he singles out the UK for particular criticism.

1:39.6

So I asked him why he felt he needed help from NATO allies, given how proud he is of how the

1:47.1

American and Israeli militaries have conducted the war on Iran. He said he didn't actually need any

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