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The Journal.

The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

Business News, Daily News, News

4.25.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

After a historic church in the heart of Nashville was taken over by a businessman, the family of the church’s original founder, including Christian pop star Amy Grant, says the building was “steeple-jacked.” The businessman leading the church denies the allegations. WSJ’s Cameron McWhirter explains to Ryan Knutson why many American churches are vulnerable to a hostile takeover. Further Listening: - ‘Exmo’ Influencers Are Taking On Mormonism - The Financial Mess Facing the Vatican - Why the New Pope Is Taking on AI Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's a church in Nashville, Tennessee that's been around for generations.

0:09.7

It's a five-story red brick building that was once a pillar of the community.

0:14.9

And for many, many decades, the church was really thriving down there in the heart of Nashville.

0:23.6

That's my colleague Cam McWhorter. Cam says, like many churches around the country, eventually the congregation shrank and got older.

0:29.6

The church over time dwindled.

0:33.6

Ultimately, by the late 2010s, it had maybe 30 people going to it. It had a lot of assets,

0:43.6

but it didn't have a lot of people. Then one Sunday in 2017, a man named Sean Mathis showed up.

0:52.5

He came for a service there with his wife.

0:55.9

Mathis was in his 40s, much younger than the average member, and the congregation, which

1:01.2

was desperate for newcomers, welcomed them with open arms.

1:05.0

They knew it was declining.

1:06.7

They knew there were issues.

1:08.2

So when Sean showed up, at first they were very excited.

1:12.2

Mathis said he wanted to get involved

1:13.8

and started sharing his thoughts about how the church could grow.

1:17.4

What were some of his ideas?

1:19.6

He was very interested in talking about reviving the church

1:22.8

and bringing in more members

1:25.0

and expanding its mission to the whole world via the internet.

1:30.3

He had big plans.

1:32.3

Here's Mathis giving a lecture in 2019.

1:35.3

The church will thrive as much or more than we've ever seen it.

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