The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions
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The Wall Street Journal
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🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 18 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | There's a church in Nashville, Tennessee that's been around for generations. |
| 0:09.7 | It's a five-story red brick building that was once a pillar of the community. |
| 0:14.9 | And for many, many decades, the church was really thriving down there in the heart of Nashville. |
| 0:23.6 | That's my colleague Cam McWhorter. Cam says, like many churches around the country, eventually the congregation shrank and got older. |
| 0:29.6 | The church over time dwindled. |
| 0:33.6 | Ultimately, by the late 2010s, it had maybe 30 people going to it. It had a lot of assets, |
| 0:43.6 | but it didn't have a lot of people. Then one Sunday in 2017, a man named Sean Mathis showed up. |
| 0:52.5 | He came for a service there with his wife. |
| 0:55.9 | Mathis was in his 40s, much younger than the average member, and the congregation, which |
| 1:01.2 | was desperate for newcomers, welcomed them with open arms. |
| 1:05.0 | They knew it was declining. |
| 1:06.7 | They knew there were issues. |
| 1:08.2 | So when Sean showed up, at first they were very excited. |
| 1:12.2 | Mathis said he wanted to get involved |
| 1:13.8 | and started sharing his thoughts about how the church could grow. |
| 1:17.4 | What were some of his ideas? |
| 1:19.6 | He was very interested in talking about reviving the church |
| 1:22.8 | and bringing in more members |
| 1:25.0 | and expanding its mission to the whole world via the internet. |
| 1:30.3 | He had big plans. |
| 1:32.3 | Here's Mathis giving a lecture in 2019. |
| 1:35.3 | The church will thrive as much or more than we've ever seen it. |
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