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The Why Files: Operation Podcast

The Basement: Eric Wargo | The Block Universe, UFO Time Machines, and Precognitive Dreams

The Why Files: Operation Podcast

The Why Files

Science, Life Sciences, Documentary, Society & Culture, Fiction, Science Fiction

4.8 β€’ 9.4K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 168 minutes

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Summary

Eric Wargo is an anthropologist, science writer, and the author of five books on one of the most controversial ideas in modern science β€” that the future is already fixed, and that your brain knows more about it than you think. His work sits at the crossroads of physics, psychology, and the paranormal, drawing on everything from Einstein's relativity to Jung's scarab beetle to make a case that precognition is not only real but explainable through mainstream science. He spent years as an editorial director at one of the country's leading psychology organizations before a UFO sighting in 2009 sent him in a very different direction β€” and he never really looked back. You can find his writing at The Night Shirt and on Substack, and his books wherever books are sold. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Today I'm sitting down with Eric Wargo.

0:02.0

He's an anthropologist and science writer, but that's not why he's here.

0:06.0

Eric has spent the last decade researching one of the most taboo ideas in science, the possibility that the future can influence the present.

0:14.0

Taboo, I've been saying this for years. Every time I get married, I get the feeling it's a bad idea.

0:19.0

Then boom.

0:20.0

This isn't time travel in the sci-fi sense, something more profound.

0:24.4

He calls it precognition, and he argues it's grounded in Einstein's Black Universe.

0:29.6

Black Universe sounds like we're the lizard people.

0:32.2

Keep the good timeline locked up.

0:33.7

The evidence comes from quantum physics experiments, lab studies that seem to prove retrocausation,

0:39.5

dreams that come true years later, artists who paint disasters before they happen.

0:44.1

Every year I dream I'm going to get audited by the IRS. Then boom.

0:47.8

Eric has five books on the subject. His work bridges hard science and consciousness research.

0:52.8

And this conversation gets out there.

0:55.0

We talk about time loops, pre-cognitive dreams, the science of synchronicity,

0:59.1

and now the future might be pulling us towards specific outcomes.

1:02.7

I think you're going to like this one.

1:04.5

Let's go down to the basement.

1:14.1

Dr. Wargo, welcome to the basement.

1:15.2

I'm excited.

1:16.0

I'm excited for this.

1:16.9

I'm excited too.

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