I'm Bill Moyers. It's good to have your ear.

This week on Moyers & Company, I'm talking with Lawrence Lessig and Zeffert Teachout on the state of democracy.

Our democracy is flatlines because when you can show clearly, there's no relationship between what the average voter cares about, only if it happens to coincide with what the economic elite care about, you show clearly. There's no relationship between what the average voter cares about. Only if it

happens to coincide with what the economic elite care about, you've shown that we don't have a

democracy anymore. When you talk about the corruption in Congress, people are talking about

the same thing that Madison was talking about, this sense that our public servants are just

serving themselves. They're running away with the resources of our country.

We are doing the hardest work that Americans have always done.

This fight against big money is a long fight.

It never ends.

It's always going to be a struggle.

But that's what we were founded on, and we should honor that.

Thanks for joining us.

Welcome.

What happens when two college professors leave the theories of the classroom behind for

the real world of bare-knuckle politics?

Well, they learn a lesson the hard way.

Just ask Zephyr Teachout and Larry Lessig.

Each is an outstanding scholar.

She teaches constitutional and property law at Fordham Law School here in New York

and recently published this highly acclaimed book, Corruption in America, from Benjamin Franklin's

Snuffbox to Citizens United.

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