It's the Bryan Lair show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. Do you remember this

moment from that fateful night of November 8, 2016, the night that Donald Trump was declared

president-elect of the United States? His supporters were celebrating, of course, but

many other Americans were not just disappointed, but really scared. Black Americans, Mexican

Americans, American Muslims, others, because of what Trump ran on, and CNN's Van Jones,

who had previously been an Obama administration official, turned to the Trump supporters

on the set that night and said, on one level, the election had to be seen as what Van

Jones called a white lash. This was a white lash against a changing country. It was a white

lash against a black president in part. And that's the part where the pain comes. And Donald

Trump has a responsibility tonight to come out and reassure people that he is going to be

the president of all the people who he insulted and offended and brushed aside. Yeah, when

you say, you want to take your country back, you got a lot of people who feel that we're

not represented well either. But we don't want to feel that someone has been elected by

throwing away some of us to appeal more deeply to others. So this is a deeply painful moment

tonight. I know it's not just about race. There's more going on than that. But race is

here too. We got to talk about Van Jones from election 9 2016 on CNN. So now comes a new

book by another prominent network news correspondent, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Wesley

Lowry, who you may know from 60 minutes on CBS the last few years, a new book that uses Van

Jones' white lash moment as a jumping off point for a deeper look at the United States

since Trump was elected, not just in the context of these last seven years themselves, but

of the whole continuum of American history as we enter the 2024 election cycle, which

we can all see is already getting intense early. The book is called White Lash, a changing

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