Well, hi there. I'm Penn Holderness and I'm Kim Holderness. Welcome to our podcast.

Yes. So we talk about all kinds of issues that affect us.

Guess what's selfish. Well, guess what to know. This doesn't just affect us. This affects anyone

who has a child that goes to a school that has a thing that we have to figure out.

Are you asking yourself what the heck do I do about school? A lot of school districts are

putting the decision in parents hands, which is, you know, you can choose a virtual option,

you can try to send to school and then they're all coming up with like how they're going to

keep our kids and our community and our teachers safe. It's a lot. It's a lot. We've had, we've

already had a couple of these moments. I thought this was going to be college. Like college was

going to be the time that we had a tough time deciding. I'm ruined. Lola was six or something.

Five maybe. And we were trying to figure out which elementary school she was going to go to.

We have school choice in our area. Yeah. It's called controlled choice. I don't know what they have

now because we're over it. We're done with it. We've made our choice. But again, that's when

the school board changes, that all changes. But we would like we visited five schools.

I didn't visit them any colleges. No, I didn't either. And then when we got the letter that she

got into the school that she got into, like you were sweating. You have thought. She got into Harvard.

I know. But it was anyway details. So right now, I think a lot of parents, I know we are, we're

in constant conversation about deciding, do we just stay virtual or do we, do we take the option

of sending our kids with all the restrictions that, I mean, is that is that going to be healthy

and safe for them as well? So when I'm confused, what I do is I reach out to my friends.

Right. And I lied before doing this. A lot of people are going to hope or doctor.

Yes. And asking her because they don't want to make the decision. They want someone else to tell

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