Like I stay in touch with like Justin, Andrew, Susie. Spencer's like my best friend from the show. What do you think the biggest challenge is going to be for Taylor Frankie Paul when she's Bachelorette? The hardest thing for her is she has so much lore behind her. You're so normal. That's why you'd be so good at reality TV and you can't go anywhere else. We need you on more reality TV. For me on Jen season, my anxiety

didn't lie in like the socializing part. It's in the people-pleasing part of myself.

How is life after Bachelor in Paradise? How is the dating scene? What is new for you? What's

different? Wow, that's a lot of balls at once. Yes, yes, yes. That was weird. Life after

paradise is incredible. I was on such a high going into it that I was just like, I don't know.

I was so like nervous and anxious to like be perfect.

I talked about it a lot in social media after the fact.

But like I was just so anxious going into it that I was like, oh, I don't want to mess up.

I want to be perfect.

And I want to do right by everybody.

And it really just like honestly ruined my time on Paradise, you know, because I got there. One, I didn't find anybody that I just really connected with that I really saw a future with. So that was bummer number one. But bummer number two was that I had all this anxiety that I was like having to deal with throughout as well. so it just was a double whammy and not that fun. So when filming ended and I didn't have to watch myself back in like a pretty anxious spot, the mental real estate that is cleared in my mind since has been incredible. And it's kind of like opened up the field for like dating. I think before the show I was like,, you know, I don't want to ruin my chances on paradise. I don't want to do blah, blah,

blah. And I'm like, what a fucking idiot. Like you should have, dude, just not let it stop your life,

do whatever you want to do. So now openly dating, having fun, just being single and actually

enjoying my life again. And it's been absolutely phenomenal. When you are going on these dates, are you talking about your pastime on Paradise? Sure. If they want to talk about it, it's funny because people act like it's like this like taboo thing to bring up like, oh, he doesn't want to talk about it. And I'm like, it's a huge part of my life now. Like it's just an elephant in the elephant in the room like ask me about it it's almost weird if you don't you know and it's not like oh like i need to talk about it because i'm like this guy but it's like what would you do for it well that's kind of my work now so like talk about it like it's cool what are you thinking when you're filming you're doing all these things meeting all these people from The Bachelor World, and then you're going to sleep at night.

Are you, is it going in your head of how stressed out you are?

About meeting?

Like the day of while you're filming the show.

No, because I don't, I don't worry about like social interactions.

Like my anxiety didn't lie in like the socializing part it's in the

people pleasing part of myself you know what I mean and the thing is is like I don't get a figure

out in real time if I'm doing right by people either so I'm just sitting here my head stirring I'm like

will this be played back correctly will they be happy with this decision that i made will they be

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