Hello, everybody. Welcome to Rose Pricks. Hi, Cecily. Hello, we're fired up. I know. I felt like I felt like that sounded a little aggressive. It did kind of sounded, but I get it. I get it.

Like, we took a turn over here. I'm not happy. I'm not happy. Okay. First of all, let's overall, because you know, like, let's overall umbrella. Yeah. What? What are you? So you're unhappy with the show? You're unhappy with the men? Like, what are you? What's your overall? No, we're going to dig in. But like, what is it? I'm unhappy because I don't, like, I don't want to sound like I'm somebody who, like, I bought into the concept.

But I kind of agree with the girls that it's like, okay, so this was supposed to be, like, empowering. Like, the whole point was that Clayton, you know, broke up with the both on the same night. So this was supposed to be like, okay, we're going to give them both a journey, their best friends. And I feel like what this did was give the guys a journey. Okay, I was

stopping journey. I love you very much. We're not going to say we're not giving into that. We're not doing that. I'm being I'm saying it, like, I run, I run, I see. Okay. All right. Well, I'm saying it the way they constantly say it, like the journey journey. Yes, I feel like, I feel like, then I'll put it this way. I feel like we are giving them an experience. Then they don't deserve.

Okay, I'm so torn. As you know that I can often be torn about things. I can all I can see both sides very easily. Because on one hand, and I know we're about to get into it. So I don't want to like spoil anything. Right.

Just on one hand, it's like, well, the guys don't have to date someone. They don't like just because they chose them.

Just because like, you're like, I want to give the shows. If, okay, imagine if it were us. Let's say we were one of the guides. Like, we were, it was reversed. And it was like, you know, the women, the bachelor.

Right. And then it was two bachelors. And one of them was just like, the worst guy you've ever dated, not that that's the case with this. But like, maybe the guy sees it that way.

And then the other is kind of the guy of your dreams. And then the worst guy is like, well, we accept this rose. And you're like,

can I get it from the other guy?

Well, what I don't know why I voice. I agree with you.

So that's why I'm upset. That's why I'm upset with even the whole premise, because then that's fine. But then they, like, it's almost worse than when they made the guys pick between Caitlin.

And breathe or Brit or Brit doesn't matter. But it's totally worse because now they have to face rejection like constantly.

Now it's right. So Brit at least Brit or if that is her name, you know, got to go home, went home. Yeah, that was it. Right. And then we've never heard from her really again.

And then Caitlin was the bachelorette. But this is so 10 times worse. And I mean, listen, Rachel was upset because she was like, yeah, but mine happened in public. But dude, so did Gabby's. Yeah. No, okay.

So on TV, like, I was like, Rachel's girl, like, stop. That's pretty kind of ridiculous that you're even saying that like, oh, Gabby, she doesn't, doesn't deserve to be as upset. She doesn't think that that's going to air.

Well, that's such a good point. But I think, okay, let's go back to sort of the beginning. Let's, let's break this down because I think, first of all, I think the cracks are starting to, I know their besties and that's so much fun to go on the journey together.

But I feel like the cracks are starting to show they're starting to get like when, as anybody would, if you're like competing with your best friend. And I doubt, I mean, they just, they've honestly just met last year.

I mean, how, how much of best friends can they, I guess they're so young, they could still be best friends. But, you know, I agree with you, a thousand percent, which is why I don't buy into the whole concept of like, oh my god, their best friends is going to be the bad, amazing, amazing, that's why an amazing special journey for them, because they're best friends.

Oh my god, they're not best friends. Like you just said, they just met. I'm sure they got bonded both sleeping with Clayton and they getting rejected by him. But I feel like this plays right back into that narrative.

It makes them competing for guys. So why not just have one bachelor at like, we normally do because then if a guy doesn't like her, then that's one thing that they don't make a connection. And that happens. People self eliminate.

People don't accept a rose. But when it's like, when you make it a competition and go, oh, will you accept this rose? No, I like the other girl who's standing right next to you, that was going to be me on the other side of it, because it's like, the second a guy has a choice. The second, this is what it's like online, saying the second they have options are like, what else?

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