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The Avery Trufelman Interview with Throwing Fits

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Throwing Fits

Arts, Fashion & Beauty

4.9 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Our interview with Avery Trufelman is tactical. Avery—host and producer of the podcast Articles of Interest—took a quick breather from wrapping the new season of her show focusing on military and outdoor clothing which premieres October 22nd to join her brothers in arms to pontificate on digging through the camo archives, the history of Banana Republic, Tyler the Creator being a fan of her work, naming all members of the Antwerp Six, the human mind finds ways to fuck around, transactional relationships with brands, the love triangle at the heart of her show’s new season, American archetypes, the women behind the military’s fashion department, this might be a shocker but the army is a bad client, clothing contracts as predictors of the future, supporting the troops and rooting for the clothes, here’s another shocker but conventions suck, hearing both sides, when stolen valor is weirdly acceptable, finding common ground in clothing, gear vs. fashion, Americans been shopping, Teddy Roosevelt’s assault on nature, performative males, the invention of layering, the triumph of gear, field jacket supremacy, special ops influencers, the camo wars, being an indoor cat with a rain hood, landing on Time’s 100 greatest podcasts of all time list, and much more on Avery Trufelman's interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.

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0:00.0

Our guest this week is geared up and about to teach you why Americans don't have health care. Last season, her podcast went deep on American Ivy and had a whole cohort of listeners dressing like grandpas and substitute teachers. This season, she's getting the full recon in the outdoors and military clothes, and I'm not talking green berets. I need all my dead bird enthusiasts to hop out the shower, take your jackets off, and sit your gorp ass down to listen because this pod hostess with the moses has a brand new season about to invade your ears

0:24.1

like America just discovered oil in your brain. Premering October 22nd, we are joined by our old

0:28.9

friend to chat performative males, lethal swag and menswear stolen valor, host and producer of the podcast

0:35.0

articles of interest, Avery Trufflemanman avery how's it going it's going well

0:40.0

how's your fashion i want to ask you how your fashion week is exhausting it's over right it's over

0:45.4

it's over it's october it's going to be super old news we're in it's fall right now it's beautiful

0:49.9

there's a crisp in the air yeah happy Halloween right are we. Happy Halloween. Right. Are we pretending it's October? Yeah. Yeah. If you want to. The series is out and I finished it. I'm so. Congrats on finishing your homework. Thanks so much. It's awesome to be done. Are you pulling like all nighters wrapping this shit up? Yeah. It's so rough. What? Do you do everything like soup to nuts? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you do that to yourself? You're greedy. You should delegate. You want all the money for yourself. You should have learned from your, you know, your new subjects. You delegate. You give orders and you have grunts to do the work for you. But then you have to pay the grunts. And so it's about money. And then you have to be like a bossy person who's like, and I'm so like, no, can you move it over a little bit? Please. Yeah. When I work, and I love working with people, but I do find myself being micromanage. So if you want it, I would rather just put that pressure on myself than someone else.

1:45.6

That's fair. I know how I am. If you want it done right, just do it yourself. Yeah. Kind of. Who hurt you? I'm an artist. Okay. You're just tortured in general. Well, we're so happy to have you back either way. Thank you. Tortured, sleepy. And it's so nice to have the series done and have October be here. So, great. Congrats again. The first thing you want to do, Avery, as always, is a little fit check. You came through, it seems, you wore the tea. You wore the band tea to the concert. I was going to make that metaphor. Thank you for your service. Yeah, it's actually a Pakistani. It's very

2:18.9

cool. I was listening because I am, um, okay, it's October. And so a month ago, a month ago,

2:28.9

I was listening to tape, uh, for episode five, which is now finished. But back when I was listening to episode five, I went to Eastern costume, which is a costume

2:40.7

warehouse in L.A., where they lend out all the costumes for like all the war movies.

2:47.0

And it ended up being a great place to reference a lot of the camouflage and a lot of the,

2:53.3

um, there like aren't a lot of war archive, like war, war costume archives where you can

3:01.5

look at all the stuff side by side, like private industry stuff and public stuff.

3:06.4

And this costume warehouse ended up being a great resource. And they have this wall of camo of every country's camo in like alphabetical order. It's the coolest thing. And I loved this one. I was like, whoa, what's this? And it was, it's Pakistan's camo. Is it open to the public? Can you like go or do you have to like be a journalist and put in a request? I mean, they're pretty chill. You could, like, call them. I mean, I brought, I had just pretty chill for, you know, military archives. Yeah. They're great. For an armory of camo. I brought the, I brought Kyle Fitzgibbons, who's the head of design for Buck Mason, because I just interviewed them. And I was like, I'm going to this military costume warehouse, do you want to come? And I was like, can I bring the designer for Buck Mason? And they were like, sure. So I think now Buck Mason brings all their designers. It's like reference stuff. To reference their stuff. Stolen valor. Yeah, straight up. Oh, well, Buck Mason has a huge military collection.

3:58.4

Oh, we're going to talk about it.

3:59.2

Yeah, yeah. That's like a, yeah, that's a huge. Maybe, maybe. And so. If they buy some ads for this episode. It's like, it's a massive thing. But yeah, basically I was like, this is an amazing shirt. And this is your number one of A3Z? Well, he gave it to me.

4:13.9

He was like, do you want it?

4:14.9

Oh, as a gift.

4:16.5

Yeah.

4:16.8

Well, they have so much stuff. this year number one of A3Z, all 186 nations. He was like, do you want it?

4:14.9

Oh, as a gift. Yeah. Well, they have so much stuff. And so he was like, just take it. To the victor go the spoils. True. So I was, and I haven't worn it since. I was like, oh, I'll wait for the guys tomorrow. That's beautiful. I'm really embarrassed that I'm wearing. No, it's cool.

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