Welcome to Secrets True Crime, the Eric Cates and Gypsy Story.

I am your host Amber Sitten.

What is done in darkness will eventually come to light.

That is the purpose of this podcast.

To shine light on the story of Eric Cates, his beloved dog gypsy, and the town of Empire, Alabama.

Listener discretion is advised.

The subject matter may involve violence, sexual content,

murder, and adult themes. It is not suitable for younger listeners. This is episode 11 of a serial

podcast and they are designed to be listened to in order.

In the last episode you heard Toby describing how she was absolutely certain that the autopsy she was shown for Eric was not a complete autopsy.

The pages of the autopsy were numbered and there were pages missing as indicated by

skipped numbers on the page numbering.

Toby also noticed discrepancies noted,

but there were things that weren't explained in detail,

as she was used to seeing in the autopsies she reviewed at her former career with the Coleman County Sheriff's Office.

In this episode, Toby will describe some of the happenings in even more detail and give you an

update on these events.

The first that we learned of the autopsy was from the DA and when he talked to us back the latter part of 2015, Bill A Dare informed us Wayne, Chris and I, that the autopsy was undetermined.

The only information that Bill A dare would give us at the time was that the autopsy was showing that Eric had

sued it in his lung and when we asked for more information about what lung, was it both,

bilateral, upper, lower, he could not answer anything else or would not at that point concerning the autopsy.

I wanted to know when and who initially told Eric's family

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