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Stay Tuned with Preet

The Authoritarian Impulse (with Anne Applebaum)

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

*Interview conducted on February 15th and published on March 17th. On this week’s episode of Stay Tuned, “The Authoritarian Impulse,” Preet answers listener questions about the Manhattan DA’s investigation into Donald Trump’s taxes, the long-standing OLC policy that a sitting president cannot be prosecuted, and the status of certain 1970’s fashion trends. Then, Preet is joined by Anne Applebaum, a Staff Writer at The Atlantic and the author of Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism. In the Stay Tuned bonus, Preet and Applebaum discuss why so many of Applebaum’s friends now believe in conspiracy theories and how the GOP has transformed over the last 25 years. For show notes and a transcript of the episode, head to: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/the-authoritarian-impulse-with-anne-applebaum/ Listen to the entirety of Doing Justice, Preet’s new free six-part podcast based on his bestselling book of the same name. You can hear Preet’s incredible stories from his time as U.S. Attorney on Apple Podcasts (apple.co/doingjustice), Spotify (spoti.fi/3p9Xwja) or wherever you get your podcasts. To listen to Stay Tuned bonus content, become a member of CAFE Insider at: CAFE.com/Insider As always, tweet your questions to @PreetBharara with hashtag #askpreet, email us at [email protected], or call 669-247-7338 to leave a voicemail. Stay Tuned with Preet is produced by CAFE Studios. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Senior Editorial Producer: Adam Waller; Technical Director: David Tatasciore; Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; Editorial Producers: David Kurlander, Noa Azulai, Sam Ozer-Staton. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

From Cafe, welcome to Stay Tune.

0:03.4

I'm Prit Bharara.

0:05.2

Trump and his administration decided

0:07.6

that they could use COVID-19 as a way of triggering

0:11.7

and angering people.

0:13.2

And, you know, we're going to be recovering from that decision,

0:16.5

that terrible self-serving, bad decision for a long time.

0:25.2

That's Ann Applebaum.

0:26.8

She's a staff writer at The Atlantic,

0:28.7

and the author of Twilight of Democracy,

0:30.9

the seductive lure of authoritarianism.

0:33.3

Applebaum is an expert on autocracies.

0:35.6

She's written several award-winning books on Stalinist Russia.

0:38.8

Her most recent Twilight of Democracy

0:41.4

is a polemic against the anti-democratic parties

0:44.1

that have grown in her adopted home Poland

0:46.4

in the United Kingdom,

0:47.6

and right here in the United States.

0:49.9

During the COVID-19 pandemic

0:51.8

and the contentious 2020 presidential election,

0:54.4

Applebaum has written about the failures of American institutions

0:57.6

and what these breakdowns reveal about the state of the nation.

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