The Author Who Nails The Toxic Empathy Liberals Have For Illegal Aliens w/Lionel Shriver

The Andrew Klavan Show

Society & Culture

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🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Author Lionel Shriver joins me for a wonderful conversation about her new novel, "A Better Life," and discusses the pushback she's received being an open conservative in the literary world. Check out Lionel Shriver's work here: A Better Life: https://a.co/d/03LCfJt0 Abominations: https://a.co/d/01zBIFNA The New Republic: https://a.co/d/0ciCAPfd We Need to Talk About Kevin: https://a.co/d/0ibI5Px7 - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://get.dailywire.com - - - Today's Sponsors: Policygenius - Head to https://policygenius.com/KLAVAN to compare life insurance quotes from top companies and see how much you could save. - - - DailyWire+: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://dailywire.com/subscribe 🍿 The Pendragon Cycle: Rise of the Merlin is now streaming exclusively on DailyWire+ Watch now: https://dwplus.watch/ThePendragon Subscribe here: https://pendragonseries.com 🔥 Friendly Fire is here! No moderator, no safe words. Now available: https://dailywire.com/show/friendly-fire 📙 My NY Times best-selling non-fiction book, "The Kingdom of Cain: Finding God in the Literature of Darkness" has been nominated for an Edgar Award! Available for purchase here: https://dwplus.shop/KingdomofCain 📘 My latest novel, "After That, The Dark" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/AfterThatTheDark 📚 Save the Klavan by shopping my merch here: https://dwplus.shop/AndrewKlavanMerch - - - Socials: Follow on Twitter: https://bit.ly/3B5RI1j Follow on Instagram: https://bit.ly/3D7AzXp Follow on Facebook: https://bit.ly/3TXNt08 Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3Rtfifp - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:33.1	The rage that this inspired, as I said,
0:35.2	they compared you to Melania Trump,
0:37.2	which is what the New York Times does and said.
0:38.5	I guarantee you, I'm a better writer than what the New York Times doesn't say. I guarantee you.
0:40.0	I'm a better writer than Malani.
1:01.5	I suspect that is true. Hey, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Lionel Shriver.
1:05.9	I am so excited to have this fine novelist on my show.
1:07.9	I read her book.
1:12.5	We need to talk about Kevin many years ago. I was deeply impressed with its absolutely unflinching view and its incredibly graceful prose.
1:18.0	And then I lost track of her, the truth is, and I opened the Wall Street Journal the other
1:23.5	day and found her interviewed as someone who, let's say, goes against the politics of the day.
1:32.0	I don't even know what her politics are, but I know that they're not the politics that was
1:35.2	being sold by every other novelist out there, except for me.
1:39.2	And it was a little, I felt a little bit like Robinson Crusoe finding a footprint in the
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