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Welcome to the Double X Gab Fest for Thursday, June 15th, the attack of the Israeli accented Amazon edition.

I'm Hannah Rosen, a host of Empir's Invisibilia, and in the New York

studios, finally, we have June Thomas back. Welcome back. Hi, June. Hello. Konichua. Managing

producer of Slate Podcasts and Noreen Malone of New York Magazine. Hi, Noreen. Hi, Hannah.

So before we get started, there are a few tickets left for our live show on June 22nd. That is next week. We have a special guest, Jenna Lyons, former creative director of Jay Crewe, all around a fascinating woman who was the boss on girls, among other things. And you can buy tickets at slate.com slash live. That's for next week, June 22nd at the Bell House in Brooklyn. We would love to see you there. So go get your tickets. Before we get started, I want to say a quick thing, which is possibly not the right thing to say, my dear listeners, and I love you all. We got complaints about having Ross doubt it on the show. And I have to say, I feel like I'm not sure June you would have given me pushback on this, but, you know, it's just not a way to live. Like, if Ross doesn't count as a person you can talk to about alternate views, who does? Like, I guess I just don't believe in a space in which you can't debate people who have even, you know, very different views than you do. And

Ross is not outside the pale to me. Anyway, Norian, you have thoughts? I agree with you on that.

I was a little surprised at how upset people were just by the fact of us having him on. I think what

really upset people more was the abortion discussion and the fact that we didn't push back more

against him. And I will say, at least for me, I'm not used to debating people on things like that really intensely. And Ross obviously was, right? Like he seems to spend a lot of his life debating with liberals. And so I understand listeners wanting us to have done better. But but I of feel the same way that, like, I don't think the GabFest is actually a safe space.

And I think, like, I would, you know, be better in my opinions if I debated them more often than I do.

Yeah.

And the abortion, that was a fair criticism, by the way.

We kind of got into a heady discussion.

And so it didn't assert the basics, which to me are just, you know, among our listeners kind of accepted and obvious, but that's probably not right. You should always assert the basics back to someone who's pushing back. So that's a fair criticism. But anyway, I hope to have him again, actually. Yeah, we had fun, actually.

Yeah, I had fun.

It was, I love debates like that.

It's like, it makes you sharper, is my view.

All right, well, let's get going on our show.

We are going to start with Comey, the strange and unexpected fellowship between James Comey and victims of sexual harassment that arose during his testimony.

Second is Wonder Woman, our new feminist icon, or maybe not.

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