The Atlantic Interview: Michele Norris

The Atlantic Interview

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Society & Culture, Politics, News

4.4 • 977 Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2018

⏱️ 37 minutes

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"For decades, examining race in America meant focusing on the advancement and struggles of people of color. Under this framework, being white was simply the default," writes Michele Norris in National Geographic's issue on race. Previously a host of NPR's All Things Considered, Norris is now the Director of The Bridge – the Aspen Institute's new program on race, identity and inclusion – building on her work as the founder of The Race Card Project. She tells The Atlantic's editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg that the public clashes over race may get our attention, but they also distract from the private conversations going on across America. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:35.1	Michelle Norris is a Peabody Award-winning journalist.
0:37.9	She's the founder of the Race Card Project, an executive director of the bridge, the Aspen Institute's new program on race, identity, connectivity, and inclusion.
0:44.9	And of course, you know her from her stellar career at NPR.
0:48.4	Very, very glad to have Michelle Norris on the show today.
0:56.3	Michelle, welcome to the Atlantic interview.
0:59.0	It's good to be with you, Jeff.
1:00.1	It's always good to be with you.
1:01.8	You're just saying that.
1:02.8	I'm not just saying that.
1:03.5	No, you're just saying that, but that's okay.
1:05.0	That's okay.
1:06.2	I want to jump right into, I mean, we've been having a continuing conversation about race in
1:12.3	America. Oftentimes, we spend a lot of time talking about African Americans and the condition
1:17.6	of the African American community and the politics of African American community. Let's talk
1:21.0	about white people, all right? You okay with talking about white people? I'm totally okay with
1:25.2	talking about white people. And let's start with the piece that you just wrote for another magazine, which just, whatever, I can't even deal with that fact that you're writing in another magazine.
1:34.0	But it's a magazine with a big yellow border, and it used to exoticize people of color.
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