Madeleine Albright

The Atlantic Interview

The Atlantic Monthly Group, LLC

Society & Culture, Politics, News

4.4 • 977 Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2018

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Madeleine Albright considers Donald Trump "the first antidemocratic president in modern U.S. history." Alarmed at the rise in authoritarian tendencies around the world, the former Secretary of State has written a new book, Fascism: A Warning. Twice a refugee of her native Czechoslovakia – first from the Nazi invasion, then later from the Communist coup – Albright is all too familiar with the loss of democracy. In a conversation on stage at Sixth & I with The Atlantic's editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg, Albright shares her thoughts on President Trump, her worries about fascism, and what it’s like to get interrupted by a porn star. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Atlantic interview. I'm Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic. On this week's show we have Madeline Albright. As I'm sure you all know, she was the first woman to serve as Secretary of State,
0:15.0	acting as America's leading diplomat from 1997 to 2001. Before that, she served as America's Ambassador to the United Nations.
0:22.0	She has a new book out called Fascism. served as America's Ambassador to the United Nations.
0:23.0	She has a new book out called Fascism, A Warning.
0:26.0	As a Czech refugee from both Nazi and communist occupation,
0:29.9	Albright can tell the story of Fascism
0:31.6	from personal experience and from her experience as a Secretary
0:34.8	of State dealing with actual fascists.
0:37.3	Our conversation was presented by the Atlantic and by politics and pros and was recorded live
0:41.8	at the Sixth and I Historic Synagogue in downtown Washington, D.C.
0:50.0	It's clearly going to be a tough crowd for you here.
0:52.0	I just want you to prepare
0:53.4	yourself for that. I have to tell you before we start when I got here about a half
0:58.9	hour ago I walked into the green room.
1:02.6	Madeline was signing books.
1:04.2	And I said, because I have a tendency to joke around,
1:08.4	I said, what is this book called anyway?
1:11.1	And she said, it's called fashion a warning.
1:15.0	Sort of an ultimate Gilda Radner moment or something like that.
1:20.0	But we'll skip the fashion and go right to the fascism.
1:24.2	Let's start with definitions, if we may.
1:29.9	Define for us the characteristics of fascism.
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