The Atheist Experience 29.48 with Godless Engineer and Jmike

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🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 83 minutes

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In today’s episode of The Atheist Experience, Godless Engineer and JMike tackle the concept of arbitrary biblical morality, the search for stance-independent purpose, and failed prophetic claims about global digital currency. Supreme Leader in CO asks if the fulfillment of the Mark of the Beast prophecy, appearing as mandatory one-world digital currency, would force belief. The hosts critique the vagueness of Revelation, noting that a single correct prediction does not validate the Bible or prove magic. They suggest that such vague claims are akin to low-probability guesses. Why does this particular apocalyptic prediction persist despite being easily dismissed? Patrick in FL argues that if God truly engaged in intelligent design, the world would not contain genetic diseases, mental defects, or other flaws, finding perfection incompatible with observed malfunction. He then questions the purpose of life without a God. The hosts clarify that absolute purpose is a meaningless concept, much like arguing someone is "taller" without context. If purpose requires a conscious mind, is it fundamentally subjective? Cyrus in England questions the utility of debate, noting that most people are either immovable or easily swayed, suggesting he should stop debating on Discord. JMike and Godless Engineer argue that debate is crucial for honing skills and influencing fence-sitters who watch, even if the direct interlocutor is unmoved. Is engaging hostile opponents worth the positive effect on casual observers? All right, well, that's going to be our show for today. I hope all of you humans out there have a great day. And don't forget to stand up and use your voice. 00:00 Intro 06:32 Supreme Leader-CO | Belief Caused By Fulfilled Prophecies 30:49 Patrick-NY | Intelligent Design Correlation With Success 1:12:30 Cyrus-(ENG) | Utility Of Debating Theists The ACA, American Humanist Association, and Genetically Modified Skeptic, are joining forces to support the Equality Texas Rainbow Rights Roadshow. Join us at the Freethought Library, on December 7th, between noon and 8 o'clock, where we'll be accepting donations for clothing, personal hygiene products, banned books, school supplies, and canned and dry food. Can't make it to the event, but you'd still like to help? You can follow the links below to support Equality Texas directly. We need your help to make this campaign a success, so follow us on MeetUp, or donate directly through the links below and help support us today." MeetUp: http://tiny.cc/acasupportseqtx Equality Texas: https://equalitytexas.org/give/501c3/ Atheist Community of Austin: http://tiny.cc/donateaca American Humanist Association: http://tiny.cc/acapartner Believe in God? Call the show on Sundays 4:30pm-6:00pm CT: 1-512-991-9242 or use your computer 💻 http://tiny.cc/callaxp and tell us what you believe and why! We request pronouns as part of the call screening process on our shows, and we display the pronouns our callers provide. If you see a caller with no pronouns indicated, this is because they chose not to provide us with any, and we respect that decision.

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0:00.0	Biblical morality is a corrupt and arbitrary code designed to uphold patriarchal dominance at the expense of marginalized groups.
0:08.7	Far from promoting the pluralism, its defenders claim, it enforces rigid hierarchies that deny equality and autonomy.
0:17.8	Women are not honored as equals, but relegated to subservient roles treated as property rather than persons.
0:25.5	Christians often excuse or rationalize horrific abuses committed by their favorite apologists like David Wood and leaders.
0:33.1	Even when those abuses involve the sexual violation of minors, with the biblical framework,
0:39.2	such acts are not condemned as crimes against innocence, but merely as infractions against
0:44.4	another man's property, rights, or violations of marital propriety.
0:48.9	The text contains no command forbidding the sexual assault of children.
0:53.2	In several passages, it even sanctions
0:55.2	their capture and sexual enslavement. A system that cannot distinguish exploitation from virtue,
1:01.1	consent from ownership, or justice from obedience cannot rightly be called moral. Biblical morality,
1:07.6	strip of its modern reinterpretation, fails the most basic tests of ethical, coherence, and human decency.
1:14.8	If you disagree with anything I've said, please call in because the show starts now.
1:26.3	What's up, heathens? How y'all doing? I am the godless engineer and I am here with
1:31.7	Jay Mike today. How you doing there, Jay Mike? I am good. I'm awesome. I was a you, you, I can give you
1:38.1	golf clap for that intro, man. That was really good. You said that with confidence and man,
1:43.9	I'm all here for it. I'm all about it. Let's see if maybe somebody would call in and point us in the direction though. Maybe we just haven't found it, you know, right, where it explicitly kind of tells us here. But, you know, that's why we're here. Call us. We're here. 512-991-9242. Yeah, definitely.
2:01.8	And I mean,
2:02.5	J-Mack,
2:02.8	just how have you been in general?
2:04.2	It's been a while since we've talked.
2:05.7	I've been good.
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