The Atheist Experience 29.17 with Justin and Jmike
The Atheist Experience
The Atheist Community of Austin
4.6 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2025
⏱️ 108 minutes
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Summary
Steve in NE, argues that enslaved people in Egypt would have owned their own houses. Justin explains that the Hebrews were subject to forced labor and how this differs from being owned as property. The illogical claims of Moses writing the Torah is as problematic as the stories Exodus. Sargon of Akkad is a story that is suspiciously similar to that of Moses; and it occurs earlier in time. There is no evidence that the Torah was written in Egyptian or that Moses wrote it. What language would Moses have spoken and used?
Kevin in TX wants to know if it is wrong to believe in a deity based on self-preservation reasons. Having the support of family and peers may go away if you come out in some situations. How much and what component of this belief is fear based?
Kaiser in OR thinks that The Atheist Experience is intellectually fraudulent because the issues of god are not complex enough to warrant a full show. How do you know that some of the hosts did not have a concept of god before they deconverted? We live in a society where lots of people believe in something we don’t think exists; we push back when there are consequences for these beliefs. How are you not a hypocrite when you call yourself an evangelical atheist? Maybe you should roll with theists.
Dylan in FL has questions about the validity of the New Testament. If the New Testament tells a lie about the older scriptures, should we still trust it? Does the Bible need to be inherent? How many lies have to be told before you say it is not true? Why does Mathew 2:14-16 tell a bold faced lie about a prophecy? The sharpshooter fallacy starts with the conclusion starts with an arrow in a tree where a circle is drawn around it to show the target. They start with the conclusion and then find things that look like it and call it prophecy.
Alfred in TX says that religion has utility and wants to know if the hosts want it phased out.
Mike explains that he wants to see the bad things that come from religion go away and how it depends on a number of things. Justin uses a brilliant analogy of an umbrella that has utility, but every 1,000 uses omits a noxious gas. Why would god tell the Israelites that they could own slaves, kidnap women to make them wives? When conforming to Biblical lies, where do you draw the line? You might be de-converting quicker than you think if you continue on this path.
Dr. Ben joins to offer some final thoughts before closing us out. Thank you for joining us today and we will see you next time!
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| 0:00.0 | Every day, millions of people stake their lives, their morals, their futures on claims they've |
| 0:05.4 | never questioned. Ancient stories passed down promises of invisible beings, threats of eternal |
| 0:11.9 | punishment, all accepted without a second thought. But belief doesn't make something true. |
| 0:17.6 | Tradition doesn't make something right. and fear doesn't make something more rational. |
| 0:22.9 | If we care about what is true, what is really true, then we have to ask the hard questions. |
| 0:28.8 | We have to challenge sacred ideas, not because we're angry, but because truth is worth the work. |
| 0:35.2 | An inconvenient truth is always more valuable than a convenient mythology. |
| 0:39.9 | If a God exists, it won't be afraid of scrutiny. And if an idea can't survive a few honest |
| 0:46.5 | questions, maybe it never deserved our faith in the first place. Is your faith well placed? |
| 0:53.2 | Could us atheists be wrong? We'd love to hear your |
| 0:56.0 | answer. The lines are open and the show starts now. Welcome, welcome. Today is April 27th, |
| 1:10.0 | 2025. I'm your host, Justin, also known around the internet's as Deconstruction Zone. I'm joined today by the Lord of Logic, the Wizard of Whiskers. You know him, a great friend of ours and a famous host of the Atheist Experience, Jay Mike. |
| 1:28.5 | Dang, that is the best intro I've ever gotten. |
| 1:32.4 | That's like, I feel like I'm about to accept an award or something. |
| 1:34.7 | That's awesome. |
| 1:35.3 | That's awesome. It's so cool. |
| 1:36.5 | Oh, man. |
| 1:37.1 | I think it's accurate. |
| 1:38.5 | No, I appreciate it. |
| 1:40.4 | I don't know. |
| 1:42.0 | I mean, I've been, I've been struggling with like simple stuff |
| 1:45.9 | lately just like, so I don't really feel very smart Mike at all recently. I always tripped on |
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