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The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Experience 28.50 with The Cross Examiner, Forrest Valkai, and Jim Barrows

The Atheist Experience

The Atheist Community of Austin

Religion & Spirituality, Non-profit, Business

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2024

⏱️ 105 minutes

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0:00.0

I am an atheist, but I have a Christmas tree in my house. I listen to tons of Christmas music,

0:06.6

starting earlier in the year than I care to admit. I love Christmas light displays. I exchange

0:11.4

gifts with friends and family. I even host a huge Christmas cookie party at my house every

0:16.5

single year. So, no, I am not fighting a war on Christmas. But there are Christians who believe that

0:24.5

you shouldn't celebrate Christmas. They accurately point out that this is a holiday rooted in pagan

0:30.0

traditions. They cite Bible verses that forbid Christians from following pagan practices. For example,

0:36.5

Deuteronomy says that adopting pagan-inspired practices

0:39.9

to honor God is unacceptable. The Second Commandment forbids making graven images, like nativity

0:45.9

scenes, they argue. And perhaps the most obvious instruction is Jeremiah, which forbids Christians

0:51.6

from following the pagan tradition, where pagans, quote,

0:55.4

cut a tree out of the forest and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with

1:01.1

silver and gold. They fasten it with hammer and nails, so it will not totter. Yes, they point out

1:07.5

that the Bible forbids Christmas trees. So it turns out there is a war on Christmas, but it isn't being fought by the people that Fox News want you to hate.

1:17.1

In reality, the war on Christmas is being fought by Christians.

1:20.7

Now, obviously, there are Christians who find nothing wrong with following these pagan traditions, but that's the point, isn't it?

1:27.3

If serious devoted Christians

1:29.6

disagree on whether Christmas traditions are sinful, how can anyone consider the Bible a reliable

1:36.6

source of fact? Obviously, this question applies to not just Christmas, but every area where Christians

1:43.5

disagree about the will of God, from tiny

1:46.5

issues like whether you can get a tattoo or have a drink, to serious matters like the

1:51.7

acceptability of divorce, to the biggest issue of all, salvation. If you ask 10 Christians

1:57.9

whether faith alone can save you, or if you also need good works,

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