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Hello and welcome to Your Dead To Me from Radio 4, a history podcast for everyone,

for people who don't like history, people who do like history and people who forgot

to learn any at school. My name is Greg Jenner, I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster,

and I'm the chief nerd on the BBC comedy show Horrible Histories. You may have also heard

my other podcast, Home School History, but that one's mostly for the kids. On this podcast,

we do things a bit differently. We hook you up with proper history while being proper

funny, and today we are nipping to the Bureau de Changes and swapping out our pound sterling

for West Ghanaian Gold Dust and travelling back 300 years to learn all about the Asante

Kingdom. And to help me do that, I'm joined by two very special guests. In History Corner,

he's an art historian, broadcaster and the inaugural director of the new VNA East Museum,

as well as the former director of the Smithsonian National Museum of African Art in Washington,

DC. You may have seen his fascinating BBC series, The Lost Kingdoms of Africa, and more

importantly, you'll definitely remember him from the Mansa Musa episode of Your Dead

To Me. It's Dr Gus Kaisley-Hapherd. Hi Gus, welcome back.

Hi Greg, so delighted to be back. And in Comedy Corner, she's a fab stand-up comedian

and writer. Her show Venus was nominated for the best newcomer at the Edinburgh Fringe

in 2019. And you'll know her from all the telly, including mock the week, eight out of ten

cats, roast battle, and Frankie Boyle's new world order. You may have heard her on the BBC

podcast, Obsessed With I May Destroy You, or her other show, Grown Up Land. It's Sophie

Dukeer. Hi Sophie, how are you? Hello, it's me. You're currently in Ghana. You've really

taken the research to a new level. Yeah, I thought that's what we did. I thought it

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