Lindsay Zarnack has spent her career covering the biggest stories in sports for networks, including

ESPN and Fox Sports. Along the way, she has become fascinated by the intersection of sports and music.

As the saying goes, athletes want to be rock stars, rock stars want to be athletes. For both,

the climb to the biggest stage is similar. What drives them and the challenges they overcome are not.

Each episode of the artist and the athlete pairs a prominent sports figure alongside a renowned

musician for an intimate, wide-ranging conversation that explores their path to success,

their process, and their passions went away from the big stage, featuring guests like

Danica Patrick, Alanis Morissette, Clayton

Kershaw, Brad Paisley, Shaq, The Chain Smokers, Eddie Vedder, Anthony Rizzo, and more new episodes

every Tuesday wherever you get your podcast.

All right, guys, X's and O's, rapid fire, both of you.

All right.

If I weren't an athlete or an artist, I would be what, Brad Paisley? A spy. Okay. Both of you. All right. If I weren't an athlete or an artist, I would be what, Brad Paisley?

A spy.

Good answer.

Clay.

Unemployed.

That's it?

I got one skill and I just, that's it.

Well, I heard you're a really good football player too.

No, that's ship sale. He could have played professional ping pong, but I you're a really good football player, too. No, that's ship's sale.

He can't played professional ping pong, but I don't think he'd be like topping Forbes list.

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