Hi there, welcome back to another short episode of High Performance where myself and

Damien Hughes sit down and just discuss stuff that you've either messes us about, things that

we've been thinking about, or maybe a comment or a

moment with a guest that has really sort of peaked our interest and Damien has

just returned from a lovely summer break off to Canada with the family and

Damien you were listening to a bunch of

podcasts while you're on your break which has kind of informed the conversation

that you want to have. Yeah so I've really been enjoying listening to David

Senra's Founders Notes podcast and he has this great line that he uses

repeatedly where he says the public praise people for the practice they do in private. So what he means is like if you listen to the Jay-Z episode he talks about how

Jay-Z was writing rhymes and raps from about the age of 12 that every opportunity he he got he speaks about how he spent three

summers in his bedroom right in at least five wraps a day and he talks about he

didn't actually end up recording until he was nearly 26.

So people saw him and thought he was this prodigiously talented guy.

But his point was we praised people for the practice that they do in private.

He spent 14 years getting his craft to that level.

And it's a theme that we see so often, Jake, from all our guests that we often talk to them about the outcomes but what we're also interested in is the

process that it's taken to get there and the stuff that happens in the shadows is what really intrigues me.

Now I think this is really really interesting because when a certain theme or a certain message

keeps on coming up time and time again from various high performance you have to stop and

listen to it and I remember you remember the NFL linebacker Ray Lewis yeah yeah something

of a legend I remember a quote from him the hardest thing to do is work hard when no one's watching.

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