The Art of Movement Building: Personal Liberation for Public Change with Mamphela Ramphele
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
4.8 • 552 Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2024
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
(Conversation recorded on July 17th, 2024)
Addressing the risks we face on a global scale is a challenge that can feel both enormous in execution and personally daunting. When it comes to finding the motivation and inspiration to do such work, one of the best sources of insight comes from the visionaries and activists who have come before us, who know what it takes to battle – and successfully transform – entrenched systems of power. What advice and wisdom can we learn from their stories and experience?
In this episode, Nate is joined by Mamphela Ramphele, co-founder of the Black Consciousness Movement, which was instrumental in building the ideological foundation that galvanized the struggle for Liberation under the apartheid regime in South Africa, ultimately leading to its dismantling. She shares her wisdom gained from over five decades of movement building and liberation as a means of structural change; something that is deeply relevant to positive outcomes during the coming Great Simplification.
What does it mean to be self-liberated and what role does this process play in propeling shifts in cultural values? How can we work across and within generations to create movements that transcend immediate and near term-goals? Is it possible to create policies founded on a deeper set of values- - and could doing so encourage more people to become 'Guardians of the Planet'?
About Mamphela Ramphele:
Dr. Mamphela Ramphele has had a celebrated career as an activist, global public servant, academic, businesswoman and thought leader. Dr. Ramphele was co-founder of The Black Consciousness Movement with Steve Biko that reignited the struggle for freedom in South Africa. She holds a PhD in Social Anthropology, is a medical doctor, and is the co-founder of ReimagineSA, the former co-president of The Club of Rome, and is the Chair at the Desmond Tutu IP Trust.
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| 0:00.0 | This self-liberation is an ongoing process and it is also relevant to this issue of planetary |
| 0:07.6 | emergencies and climate change. It is not a question of green energy versus fossil fuel. It's a question |
| 0:14.9 | of a reimagining the relationship we have with energy, the relationships we have with biodiversity, the relationships |
| 0:25.6 | we have with water, the relationships we have with other people. Because if we don't question |
| 0:33.0 | those relationships, we will continue to consume more than is possible. We are consuming the equivalent |
| 0:40.3 | of seven planets. We can't sustain that. You're listening to the Great Simplification. I'm |
| 0:50.3 | Nate Hagen's. On this show, we describe how energy, the economy, the environment, and human behavior all fit together and what it might mean for our future. |
| 0:59.8 | By sharing insights from global thinkers, we hope to inform and inspire more humans to play emergent roles in the coming great simplification. |
| 1:21.0 | Today I am pleased to welcome Dr. Mampila Rampili to the show to discuss her decades of experience in activism and movement building as the co-founder of the Black |
| 1:26.3 | Consciousness Movement in South Africa during the 1960s and 1970s as the co-founder of the black consciousness movement in South Africa |
| 1:28.3 | during the 1960s and 1970s under the racially segregated apartheid regime. |
| 1:35.0 | Dr. Rampelli has a celebrated career as an activist, global public servant, |
| 1:40.6 | academic businesswoman, and thought leader. |
| 1:43.3 | She holds a PhD in social anthropology, |
| 1:46.3 | is a medical doctor, is the co-founder of Reimagined S.A., the former co-president of the |
| 1:52.3 | Club of Rome, and is the chair at the Desmond Tutu IP Trust. Usually of late, people |
| 1:59.2 | interview her and ask her about the activities of Club of Rome, |
| 2:02.9 | but I wanted to go back to the roots and ask her her opinion of what it was like to change |
| 2:08.6 | the social situation of a very small percentage of people in a broader society to see how |
| 2:15.0 | that applies to the broader social movements of today. |
| 2:18.5 | During this conversation, which is full of Mampida's wisdom and knowledge that can only come |
| 2:23.4 | from decades of experience trying to change seemingly unchangeable systems, I invite you the viewers |
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