Welcome to the Jeff Kaven Show, where we talk about the Bible,

discipleship and evangelization, putting it all together and living as activated disciples.

This is Show 273, the art of learning and deep fat Friday.

Okay, thanks for, you know what, I think it was the title of the

deep fat Friday, you're thinking yourself, what in the world is that about? Well, we'll talk about

that. We're going to talk about the art of learning, something I have been thinking so much

about lately. And this is the first of probably many shows. I don't know if they'll be in a row,

but they're going to be. And I just am thinking a lot about learning and some of the problems

that we're facing and we'll get into that. But I, I have to tell you, I have had just the,

the best couple of weeks here. And last week was really, really a lot of fun for me because I got

to get out for once after COVID. And I got to go out to Philadelphia and I spent time with Christopher

West and did just a beautiful presentation that they had called revealed, check it out. And I

spoke about the art of learning and beauty and creating and just had so much fun with that.

A topic that I feel very, very strongly about. And then on the way back to Minnesota,

to get back up here into deep in the woods, I went through Steubenville. And I've been to

Steubenville. I taught there. I, I've been to just dozens and dozens of conferences as a speaker.

And I love it. It's kind of a, it's kind of a little mini Rome for me to go back there because I

got so many good memories. And I ended up meeting with Bob Hickey at the school. He's doing a great

job and really bringing about a, a, a kind of a new vision and a new, a new group of projects at

Franciscan University. Pray for them. They're doing great work. I was on Matt Fried show. And I didn't

know that that show just kind of went on and on and on. And I was on there for three hours.

You can check it out. I enjoyed it very much. He asked me some very difficult questions. I got

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