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Alright folks, so so I had this book. It arrived. I don't even know who sent it to me honestly. Just like showed up on my doorstep. This happens to me sometimes. Then I I attempt to just toss the book because I need another book like any other hole in the head. But this one just caught my eye. So I read it.

It's called the art of insubordination how to die scent and defy effectively and I honestly thought this is going to be something like the alchemist cookbook or some crazy title meant to like incite riots and violence. But I was pretty wrong. It's it's actually really good. It's like this research based toolbox for people to be able to basically like get along better. But also it's almost almost like a handbook to create a world with more justice and creativity.

And courage and it's written by a professor of psychology and my guest on today's show Todd cash then K a S H D A N cash then and Todd actually gave a TEDx talk and I'll link to it in the show notes.

If you got a bangerine field fitness comm slash insubordination he wrote a or he gave a TEDx talk on psychological flexibility. He writes for psychology today writes the curious blog for psychology today over four million people read. He has a PhD in clinical psychology. He founded the well being lab at George Mason University was just sounds like a very pleasant place to be.

And this new book is is basically like this guide book for being heard and making change and and questioning unhealthy or stagnant status close but doing so in a very level headed manner and even like it like a peaceful and impactful manner.

And so I just had so many things that kind of highlighted in the book and so many pages folded over I had to get taught in the show because obviously it's pretty relevant to the times that we're living in as well because there's so many things that were tempted you know so many new normal so to speak we're tempted to her bell against but yet we don't want to be that person who's inciting some type of a you know Molotov cocktail party downtown in front of the sushi restaurant so.

So so anyways I'd I'd love to jump into some of this stuff with you Todd welcome to the show man yeah thanks for having me I should have you as my publicist.

Oh great no I don't I don't want that job I've seen publicist and I don't I don't think I'm cut out for that I'm not very good at sending out 100 cold emails a day but in anyways in insubordination yeah you know I think a lot of people maybe throw around that word but possibly don't.

Possibly don't really know what it means and since we're probably going to be using that word a few times today show and I because it's it's the link for the show notes banger in filthinist calm slash in sub ordination I suppose we should define that word what what what how would you define in subordination Todd.

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