G-M-A-M, Los Angeles.

Hi, Kirby.

Hi, Sarah.

Welcome to Los Angeles.

Okay, this has been a long time coming.

We've been wanting to have you on the podcast. I'm containing myself.

I can't. And I'm like, but you're a busy woman. Vanessa Lee, Vanessa Lee, if you listening do

not know who she is, you probably do. You probably follow her. But she is a celebrity and medical

aesthetic provider. You are a certified Eastern face reader, which we will

get into. But like maybe most notably you are the founder of the things we do. And I remember

when you started the things we do, it was like unlike anything that was out there. And now there are so

many who have copied you, which I feel like you should feel so flattered. But like,

I love it. You really have, like, you are a trendsetter. But, you know, you have over 16 years of

experience. You've been in this industry for so long. So we want to just dive into like your brain,

your beautiful brain, what you're using on your clients and also yourself, because you are gorgeous. And I feel like the last time we were with you, I was like, Vanessa, tell me what you're doing. I need to know and I need to do it. And what a fun night too. Oh, man, that was really fun. Yeah, the MediCube event. So much fun. So Sir John. Thank you for coming on Los Angeles. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Right before we

started, I was like, okay, icons, let's get started because, well, one, I want to say thank you

for having me. But two, also, I've been following your journeys for so years and years and years.

And I know that you guys are pioneers in the beauty editorial space. And you guys stand by your

journalism always.

And I know when I see a Saratan or Kirby Johnson post, real anything, I'm like, they've

done the work, they've researched, and I'm paying attention.

So thank you so much for having me.

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