A very good afternoon and welcome along. I'm Justin Briley and this is the show that brings

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give to the show and will send you all the videos from unbelievable the conference USA from

last year if you're able to give towards the ongoing show costs. We're talking about

the argument from reason today and I'll be introducing you to my guests Alex and Max

very shortly. But I'm so excited to be able to tell you that this last week we opened

up the ticketing for unbelievable the conference 2020 and what a conference it is going to be.

That's a day the 9th of May at Central Hall Westminster. That's where you need to be in

London for our theme how to tell the greatest story ever told. And I told you last week

if you're a regular listener that I had a very special guest waiting in the wings to announce

because I've already told you, NT Wright, the famed New Testament Theologian, well he's

going to be there of course and we're going to be doing a special edition of our Ask NT

Wright anything podcast a live audience edition at the conference. But we are so glad that

we've also been able to confirm that Tom Holland is going to be present at this year's

conference as well. Here of course is the best selling historian and author of Dominion,

the making of the Western mind and of course he was on this show debating it with atheist

AC Grayling quite recently. So please that Tom Holland is going to be alongside Tom Wright

at this year's conference. Tom Holland's been making a big splash I'd say in the Christian

world with that book and it's so exciting that he'll be there at the conference alongside

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