One of the really cool things about designing cruise ships is how they design cruise ships.

They're not coming, they don't come up in a magazine, they're not just copy and paste from

the last one.

Every Royal Caribbean cruise ship has its own, not only DNA to it, but even its own feel and

venues that we've come to expect, oh, been there, done that, nope, they get revamped and

retouched in a lot of

cases with ships within even the same class. And one of the companies that RealCherber has been

relying on for decades is Wilson Butler Architects, who's worked for almost three decades to help

Royal Caribbean really push the boundaries of what's possible on a ship. And on this week's episode, we've got three

members of the team joining us here. First of all, we have Scott Butler, who's the co-founder

of the firm. Scott, welcome to the podcast. Thank you. We also have Ben Marcionic, who's a principal

at Wilson Butler Architects. Hello? And Kelly Chardana, principal and senior interior designer.

Kelly, welcome to the podcast.

Hi, thanks.

So Wilson Butler architects have been working with Royal Caribbean for decades to help design their ships.

And I really wanted to start with a fun story because the oasis class, first known as Project Genesis,

had a few ideas that didn't make the final cut. There were things like the ocean pass,

the coral strand, and market pier. So let's start off with this. I would love to hear some,

tell us more about these never realized concepts. What does the alternate universe have on the Oasis class that we never got to see?

I don't know if maybe I can start.

Sure. Just because you're going way back in time here for maybe all of us.

When we did work on this project, we were sort of given a fairly blank slate with this open

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