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The Arbery Shooting: Looking for Answers

City Journal Audio

Manhattan Institute

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.8615 Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Coleman Hughes joins Brian Anderson to discuss the shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery, the widespread claims that his alleged murderers were motivated by racism, and public reaction to the killing—the subjects of Hughes's article, "The Illusion of Certainty."

Ahmaud Arbery's violent death at the hands of Gregory and Travis McMichael has sparked nationwide outrage and reignited the debate over racial profiling. But "while it's tempting to assume that the McMichaels were motivated by racism," writes Hughes, "the only intellectually honest position is to admit that we do not know what motivated them—at least, not yet."

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0:00.0

Welcome back to 10 blocks. I'm your host, Brian Anderson. And joining us on today's show is Coleman Hughes.

0:22.1

Coleman is the newest contributing editor at City Journal, and he's also a brand new fellow at the

0:27.8

Manhattan Institute. You can follow him on Twitter at cold X-Man. That's at cold X-Man. Just a few

0:36.3

weeks ago, Coleman was still studying philosophy at the University, Columbia University,

0:40.9

in New York City.

0:42.8

In addition to writing for a city journal in the past, he's been featured in the New York

0:46.8

Times, The Wall Street Journal, National Review, The Spectator, and regularly in Quillette.

0:52.8

He also hosts his own popular podcast, Conversations with Coleman,

0:57.2

which you can find on wherever you get your podcasts. Coleman's written, as I mentioned, a number of

1:02.5

pieces for City Journal. His latest is called The Illusion of Certainty. It's about the shooting

1:08.4

death of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old black man from Georgia.

1:14.1

His killing in February was recorded on video at the time and then released online last month,

1:20.3

re-igniting, as Coleman puts it, the national debate about racial profiling.

1:25.3

Coleman, thanks very much for joining us.

1:27.5

Thank you for having me.

1:29.3

I'd like to talk with you about your interests and what you'll be working on now that you're a member of

1:35.3

City Journal and the MI team.

1:37.9

But first, let's talk about this article that you've just read.

1:41.8

I'm sure many of our listeners are familiar with the story by now

1:44.8

and the video that went viral last month. But can you just give, for those who haven't been

1:51.1

following the issue that closely, a brief description of what happened as you understand it

1:56.1

anyway? So in the city of Brunswick, Georgia, a 24 or 25 year old black man named Ahmaud Arbery was running in a neighborhood. It's unclear whether he was out for a jog or what the precursor to the event was, but he entered a construction

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