Hey everyone, it's Anna. Today, instead of a regular modern love episode, we're going to share a conversation that's a little bit newsier, but still very intimate.

It's from another New York Times podcast, The Daily. We know a lot of you are already daily listeners, but if you're not familiar with it, this conversation is a great one to start with. It's about a spike that's happening

in the number of women who are choosing to have breast reduction surgery. Reporter Lisa Miller

said out to uncover why this trend is happening, and she tells daily host Rachel Abrams

what she learned from experts. He'll also hear the voices of several women who were very open about why they decided to have the surgery and how they feel about it afterwards.

If you like this episode, I highly recommend you check out The Daily, wherever you listen to Modern Love.

The Daily does one story every day about an important topic or breaking news. But it's not just informative. It can be

funny, insightful, it's often moving. And like this conversation with Lisa Miller, the daily

makes you think about how you relate to other people and to yourself. This episode originally

aired on November 20th, 2024. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. And a quick note that this is our last episode of 2024. We're taking a little break next week and then we'll be back with all new episodes. All right, on with the show.

From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily.

For decades, breast augmentations have been one of the most popular cosmetic surgeries in America.

But in recent years, a new trend has started to emerge, the breast reduction.

Today, my colleague Lisa Miller, on understanding the appeal of the smaller breast. Hi, Lisa.

Hi, Rachel.

So, you recently wrote a story about something that I am pretty sure we haven't covered on the daily before.

And that topic is breast reductions.

And I'd really love to hear,

before we get into it, why you wrote about it and why it interested you. Sure. I work on

the Well Desk at the New York Times, and Well is the area of the Times that covers health and wellness,

nutrition, fitness. I am particularly interested in the subject of women's

bodies and how it feels to be in a female body walking around in the world. So those are the

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