The app store war

Explain It to Me

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🗓️ 7 May 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Matt is joined by Makena Kelly of The Verge to talk about some recent stories at the intersection of policy and tech. She discusses the Facebook Oversight Board's ambivalent "ruling" on Trump's ban from the platform, Apple's ongoing antitrust court battles, and the prospect for a sweeping antitrust overhaul foreshadowed by Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI). Resources: "Facebook's Trump ban can stay in place, says Oversight Board" by Makena Kelly and Adi Robertson (The Verge, May 5) "As Epic v. Apple approaches the courtroom, Valve is getting sued over Steam too" by Sean Hollister (The Verge, May 1) "Amazon's Antitrust Paradox" by Lina M. Khan (Yale Law Journal, Jan. 2017) "Facebook's shadow court" (The Weeds, March 5) "Apple Accused of 'Power Grab' in Senate App Store Hearing" by David McLaughlin and Anna Edgerton (Bloomberg, Apr. 21) Guest: Makena Kelly (@kellymakena), policy reporter, The Verge Host: Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com Credits: Erikk Geannikis, Editor and Producer As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter. The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production. Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks, I wanted to talk about some of the technology policy stuff that has been happening
0:05.7	in Washington lately because I think there's an actual chance of legislative action on it,
0:10.8	even though it hasn't really broken through as much in the mainstream politics news.
0:15.3	So I went to McKenna Kelly who works at our sister site, The Verge.
0:19.8	She's a politics reporter for a technology site.
0:22.6	So she covers this stuff very closely, even though it's been a little bit below the radar.
0:26.6	We talked about Facebook moderation, the kind of Facebook Supreme Court, but also this big
0:31.0	hearing that happened about Apple and App Store is there, and some potential antitrust
0:36.8	legislation coming out of the House as well as the Senate.
0:39.1	It's a really interesting conversation.
0:40.7	I think you learn a lot.
0:41.7	A lot of the times the most important stuff in Congress is what isn't in the headlines,
0:45.8	and that's what we're really getting into here.
0:47.5	Hello, welcome to another episode of The Weeds on the Box Media Podcast Network on Matthew
1:00.2	Eglaceus.
1:01.2	My guest today, McKenna Kelly is a politics reporter for The Verge of Box Media Sister
1:06.3	Site here doing a crossover event to tell us about some of the technology news that's
1:12.3	happening.
1:13.3	I had wanted originally to talk about App Store regulation, which seems to be heating
1:18.8	up in Congress, and we're going to get to.
1:21.4	But as we're sitting here recording on Wednesday, Facebook's oversight board handed down a somewhat
1:29.0	confusing to me, ruling about the question of Donald Trump getting his Facebook page
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