The App Era Is Over: Wallet-Native Insurance & the Agentic Frontier — Marc Lampe × Ernesto Suarez
Scouting for Growth
Sabine VanderLinden
4.8 • 35 Ratings
🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 73 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Imagine this. You are lying in a hospital bed, in a country you do not live in. You are bleeding, |
| 0:24.8 | and the doctors will not begin treatment until you prove that you have insurance. And you |
| 0:31.2 | cannot find it. That story was told to me on this podcast by one of my guests, not as theater, but as the reason |
| 0:40.1 | this conversation matters. Welcome to Scouting for Growth. I'm Sabine Van der Linden, and this is |
| 0:46.4 | where we ask the founders rebuilding insurance how they actually do it. With me, Mark Lam, co-founder |
| 0:53.9 | of Miss Moneypenny Technologies, the team behind Wallet Studio, |
| 1:00.0 | 22 insurers live on the platform, an $8 million seed round last April, and a thesis, |
| 1:08.6 | the era of the app, as we have known it, is over. And Ernesto Suarez, |
| 1:15.0 | founder and CEO of Gigashu, a digital native travel MGA, 28, 25 years in the insurance |
| 1:23.8 | industry, one exit back again in his words, because the first time, it did not |
| 1:31.0 | finish what he started. In the next 40 minutes to 60 minutes, the partnership that produced |
| 1:38.6 | 35,000 wallet cards in under four months, what they built, what nearly broke, and well, |
| 1:46.3 | this goes when our agents start doing the building. Grab a coffee, this one I think will move you. |
| 1:58.0 | How are you, Mark? How are you, Ernesto? So good to see you today on the Scouting for Growth podcast. Welcome. Mark. Thank you very much. |
| 2:07.3 | You just had a little bit of a trip across London. Welcome. Yes. I saw the different face of London this morning with a strike and a two hours, two hours |
| 2:19.8 | ride in the city. |
| 2:22.0 | So, yeah, interesting. |
| 2:23.5 | And Ernesto, so pleased to see you again. |
| 2:26.3 | I understand you said we met in 2012. |
| 2:28.9 | Gosh, that is a long time ago. |
| 2:32.2 | It is a very long time ago when and during my first venture. |
| 2:36.7 | So totally different, I think, parts of our career. |
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