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What Now? with Trevor Noah

The Anxious Generation with Jonathan Haidt

What Now? with Trevor Noah

SiriusXM & Day Zero Productions

News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Haidt, noted social psychologist and author of The Anxious Generation, sits down with Trevor and Christiana to discuss how smartphones and social media are harming Gen Z – and really all of us. He encourages claiming back third spaces, championing anti-fragility, and … maybe letting your kid go take a walk. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

We've created a world where the barrier to entry for some of the things that we've agreed on as some of the most harmful to younger kids, the barrier to entry is zero.

0:11.9

It's literally you click a button that says, I am 18 or older.

0:15.5

And I remember the first time I saw that button when I wasn't 18.

0:18.4

I was on a computer game called Leisure Suit Larry.

0:20.9

I don't know if you've ever heard of this day.

0:22.4

No, I haven't had that.

0:22.4

So it was a story of this man, Leisure Suit Larry, whose only goal was to have sex.

0:27.6

That's all he was trying to do.

0:28.6

And you get points for the number of times.

0:30.6

And you played this game.

0:31.9

I remember the first one, you were just at a bar and you would type on the computer like open door knock on door and the bouncer would be like

0:38.7

what's the code and you're like what is the code but like when i think about like this world i think

0:42.9

about the option is like in the game it would say to you at the beginning are you 18 or older and i said

0:48.5

i said no i was honest i was like no and the game was like you're not old enough to play i remember

0:52.9

being oh and you went and then i booted it up again. And then I went, I am 18. And it was like,

0:58.6

welcome to the game.

1:03.0

Something is happening to our kids.

1:06.1

Anxiety, depression, and loneliness are on the rise. And it looks like it's not just a phase.

1:12.3

Parents are overwhelmed, young people feel lost, and no one's quite sure what or who is to blame.

1:18.8

But today's guest has spent years trying to answer just that question.

1:23.4

Jonathan Heights is a leading social psychologist, a professor at NYU, and the author of The Anxious Generation, A Book, that's sparking urgent conversations around the world today.

1:34.0

In this episode, we unpack what's going wrong and what we might still be able to do to get it right.

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