Welcome to bewildered. I'm Martha Beck here with Rowan Mangan. At this crazy moment in history,

a lot of people are feeling bewildered, but that actually may be a sign we're on track.

Human culture teaches us to come to consensus, but nature, our own true nature, helps us come to our

senses. Rowan and I believe that the best way to figure it all out is by going through bewilderment

into bewildered. That's why we're here. You know what I'm saying out in the world is a lot of fear

and a growing amount of despair. Maybe you're feeling that way too, because the ways our culture has

taught us to navigate the world, to navigate our lives, they are failing us. We need a new language,

we need a new set of tools to find our way individually and as a group. And I know we can still do

this. I put everything I do know about it into wayfinder life coach training and the tools that I

teach there are to help people redefine how we relate to each other, how we make a living, how we

do community. We can only change the world for the better if we redefine how we think.

Registration is open for the fall and the world needs wayfinders now more than ever. So please go

to MarthaBag.com and you'll find your way.

Hi, I'm Martha Beck and I'm Rowan Meng and this is another episode of bewildered the podcast

for people trying to figure it out. How are you doing, Marty? I'm good. I have a little bit of a

scratchy throat, but nobody panic. It's just one of those things and if I go during this podcast,

don't worry. I'm good. How are you? I'm going to worry about it. I'm going to worry about it.

What was that noise again? Yeah, I'm having flashbacks to that show. The last of us,

but I won't give any spoilers. I'll just tell you. I will give one spoiler.

A very ambiguous spoiler. Now that you said you had a scratchy throat,

now I've got an itchy everything, especially scalp. It's like, is it one of those things where

when you hear about itches, you get itchy, everyone gets itchy? Yes, absolutely. And God for

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