that they remain anonymous, which I totally understand.

This kind of stuff can be really hard to litigate, especially publicly, when there is so

much harassment for anyone, especially any Jewish person who chooses to speak out about it.

They have such unbelievable wisdom and knowledge about the subject at hand. So we're going to hear from them

a little later in the show. Matt and I, welcome to the show. With regard to this topic,

how are you guys feeling right now? I love this topic. It is all I've been talking about for the last

18 months. It's something I used to only talk about in much smaller, more niche circles. And it's

nice to have more and more people interested in this. So I'm feeling good about it. I would say

that been doing work against anti-Semitism for a long time. And starting around 2015, 2016, started to recognize the ways in which the distortion

of anti-Semitism and Jewish fear was being weaponized, and it has been increasing, and at this

moment it's on such hyperdrive that it's gone from this very niche topic to the front

page of any publication. But yeah, like you were saying, Matt, it's also that it's so rampant

that it's being exposed. And that is actually really helpful for people being able to counter it.

So the way that we're going to break up this episode is we are going to hear chiefly from

Matt and Matt, the two mats, in the first half as we go through some of the shadowy internet

figures who have been really pushing this distortion of anti-Semitism for incredibly

fascist means. And then in the second half, we are going to have explain to us kind of what's

going on beneath the surface here as it pertains to the Trump administration and how they are

weaponizing Jewish fear.

Matt, I want to start with a video that we are going to watch together.

And this video is from a one Lizzie Savetsky.

And if you don't know who Lizzie Savetsky is, you will in a minute.

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